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Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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I could ask you how much you get paid to write comments supporting the genocide of palestinians… You people with no morals try really really hard to twist words uh? But at the end of the day you're just a sad racist.

Link or didn’t happen, comrade. I’ll save you time: you won’t find one.

Are you asking for proof of you being a shill right after you accused me of being a shill? Where was your proof?

Have you no capability of reasoning?

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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I could ask you how much you get paid to write comments supporting the genocide of palestinians… You people with no morals try really really hard to twist words uh? But at the end of the day you're just a sad racist.

They got u there tho, I'm with you that there's a ton of China hate deliberately stoked by US Govt and media, mostly as a distraction from out problems at home. But there's nothing to defend about Tiananmen Square

Where exactly have I defended it? Can you cite the words please?

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A poison is not going to harm you unless it makes no contact with your body; what GP is saying is, regardless of which one is more potent, it's safer to pick the one you're least likely to ever find yourself near.

It's safer to not ingest any poison. You don't extinguish fire with gasoline because kerosene might be worse. You don't eat rat poison because fentanyl would be worse. It's a false dichotomy.

It's not a false dichotomy - the entire analogy to poison makes no sense, because US or China spying on people's activity on-line is currently a complete nothingburger. If anything, adtech is actually doing real harm to people this way, but that harm is still relatively small and indirect, which is why most people don't care.

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I'm glad people care about their personal data, I just wished they cared as much when talking about ChatGPT, because in reality if you're not a Chinese dissident living abroad, then OpenAI is much more dangerous to you than the CCP.

OpenAI does not have a history of disappearing people and when they return, their attitude has completely changed (see Jack Ma). OpenAI does not have a history of aggression against other nations shipping vessels. OpenAI does not have a history of corporate espionage and IP theft. OpenAI does not have a history of setting up police stations in other nations. OpenAI does not have a history of operating an illegal bio-…

Facebook, Cambridge Analytica, Sponsoring a genocide… the moral differences between the US and the CCP are imaginary.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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I'm glad people care about their personal data, I just wished they cared as much when talking about ChatGPT, because in reality if you're not a Chinese dissident living abroad, then OpenAI is much more dangerous to you than the CCP.

OpenAI does not have a history of disappearing people and when they return, their attitude has completely changed (see Jack Ma). OpenAI does not have a history of aggression against other nations shipping vessels. OpenAI does not have a history of corporate espionage and IP theft. OpenAI does not have a history of setting up police stations in other nations. OpenAI does not have a history of operating an illegal bio-…

If we are talking countries here, then all that you've mentioned is done by both sides. If we are talking companies then as far as I know only one of them is developing killer robots (guess which one).

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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Don’t worry. There’s literally nothing an llm can write or tell you that you can’t write yourself or find in a manual somewhere.

> There’s literally nothing an llm can write or tell you that you can’t write yourself or find in a manual somewhere. That's like saying, there's literally nothing a service business can do for you that you can't do yourself. It's only true in a theoretical sense, if neither time nor resources are a constraint. In such hypothetical universe, you don't need a dentist - you only need to spend 5+ years in medical school…

No. Just what, two years ago, no one was really using LLMs to do this sort of thing? Why do we suddenly have to use these tools now?

If your job is to write software, then you're the accountant or lawyer or doctor. Otherwise, what do we even bring to the table?

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You're definitely limited by how fast you can read and understand.

True, but the jury is still out whether text generators help out with either of those.

Understand probably not, but they can read bizarrely fast and write a summary of what things do very fast ; maybe not 100% accurately but close enough to be of value when trying to understand a large bag of code fast.

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$20/mo isn't a lot... Especially if you make money with coding.

It is a lot outside of the US. Even with an ok developer salary in Belgium, I'd have to really have a use for something to pay $20/mo.

I do a lot more work with cline and aider than without. For now that translates to a lot more money. In the end it's probably just going to be part of your normal job; you will just deliver a lot more in your 40 hour week than you did before. At this stage in the AI hype, I would insist on more or code side projects or do multiple projects. I write a lot more code and still have more time than before sonnet came out.

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Only if it increases your compensation by that 1%? I get making economic/stats based analysis like this, but is your boss going to notice that 1% to give you a raise they otherwise wouldn’t? Probably not… Your company culture can be performance-minded and this still be true.

What a weird way of thinking. If you act so pedantic anyway, you can stop coding simply 1 percent earlier each day, since your boss would not notice anyway. Personally I live in Belgium and I would be glad to pay 20 euros per month if it increases my productivity, as noticed by my boss or not. The real problem however is, I cannot simply share my employer's repos to be absorbed by any LLM out there. So I use only the…

I was only embodying the mindset in the comment I was replying to. Thinking in terms like “My time is worth $X, so if I do Y thing that takes Z minutes, that’s D dollars saved.” It gets really hairy and leads people down false paths where they think they’re being super “rational” all the time.

In this case it tricks you because it assumes that the LLMs increase productivity and launders that into the calculation. For me, and many people, LLM usage decreases my productivity.

Re: Trae: An AI-powered IDE by ByteDance

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They got u there tho, I'm with you that there's a ton of China hate deliberately stoked by US Govt and media, mostly as a distraction from out problems at home. But there's nothing to defend about Tiananmen Square

Where exactly have I defended it? Can you cite the words please?

No, cuz its flagged now, but the vibe I got was that the tank driver wasn't willing to run over the guy, and presumably thus wasn't so violent an incident as we make it out to be

I feel like the better move is to acknowledge that they have done and are doing atrocities but that its easier to stop the very similar ones we're doing than the ones being done halfway across the globe

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