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We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Re: We all took the DVD boom era for granted

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Post by throwaway04267 »

fuzzfactor wrote: post #353
alt227 wrote: post #104

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> Before you just needed a DVD player However you also needed to physically buy a copy of every movie you want to watch, instead of signing up for one service and having access to thousandsd immediately.

For a while there, most desktop PCs came with two optical disk units, one player and one player/burner. So the original disk could be copied to writable media. There definitely would "occasionally" be a movie lover who wasn't actually buying those copies.

You could manage that with only one drive, where you would just store the image on the HD temporarily. You could save space by removing unwanted content, such as foreign sound tracks, subtitles and extras. Sometimes I would even skip the end credits.

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Post by freeAgent »

cubefox wrote: post #134
mkesper wrote: post #46

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Pretty sure they have. It's just been broken long ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeCSS

I thought this form of copy protection doesn't count as DRM. Not sure on the definition of DRM though.

It is DRM, it was just cracked a long time ago and they couldn’t apply a fix since the discs and players aren’t internet-connected or meant to be patched.

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Post by omt123 »

retrac wrote: post #337
cogman10 wrote: post #336

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Long distance pretty quickly adopted digital transmission. Unless you made calls in the 70s there's a pretty good chance you were just using digital calls which is why they were so clear. If you go watch an old TV show with a long distance phone call (Comes up on MASH, for example, and the Twilight zone). You'll see people screaming into the phones. That was a pretty normal way to be heard as whispers simply couldn't…

Plenty of long distance circuits remained analog into the 90s, particularly the microwave relay tower networks in rural areas. They used all sorts of techniques to produce rather good results. As an example, one game phone phreaks in the 70s would play is stacking very long lines back and forth. Route a call across the country, then back, then back again. You could do NY - SF four or five times with a circuit length…

They are still used, as primary circuits for weapons elevators on carriers.

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Post by entropicdrifter »

joney_baloney wrote: post #360
entropicdrifter wrote: post #253

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If you're worried about Aliens, I can confirm that it's gorgeous in 4k UHD and the color accuracy is much better than the prior (manually frame-by-frame denoised) 1080p blu-ray release

I liked it more than I thought I would, but the "AI fake" effect was a bit noticeable here and there. After watching the 4k UHD, I put in my Blu-ray from 10 years ago or whatever, sort of thinking I was going to prefer it's "less digital" graininess, but nope. Definitely found it more distracting than I'd remembered. So of the two, I'd take the new AI version, though it's not perfect. But the happy medium might be th…

This is how I feel about it as well. It's not perfect, but it is the best, prettiest version of Aliens, hands down. James Cameron is notoriously picky about the quality of the re-releases of his films and I honestly think this was the best outcome here. Yes, a "grindhouse" style 4K HDR transfer of the original film negative would also be nice in order to get that classic film grain for those who are in the mood for it, but as it is, the release we got was exceptionally high quality even with its imperfections.

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Post by kjkjadksj »

mrguyorama wrote: post #210
robohoe wrote: post #113

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Yes, and a lot of movies on DVDs cost $10-15

Nearly every single individual DVD movie is less than $5 on ebay right now. Streaming will never have a secondhand market.

How many of those dvds are too scratched though? That would be like half of the blockbuster dvds we’d get. Even tried playing a dvd again at my folks and hit an unskippable scratch I couldn’t even see on the disc.

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Post by kjkjadksj »

vouaobrasil wrote: post #57

I wish there were a way to just pay for a movie on a site and download it as an mp4 in 1080P or 4K. I hate streaming because I only want to watch 1-2 movies per month and they are very specific (like a specific martial arts movie or action movie). Streaming interfaces often have DRM and horrible interfaces and I don't want to pay a monthly fee for something I'll rarely use. Don't understand the DRM because pirates ge…

You wish it weren’t the case, but it is the case. Play the hand you are dealt and go and get your clean copies. The market isn’t catering to you but that doesn’t mean you should then cater to the market if you don’t have to.

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Post by kjkjadksj »

lukan wrote: post #22
p0w3n3d wrote: post #18

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Also, DVD is still a standard in medical imaging, which baffles me, because many people do not own drives anymore, but I think this is as close to "owning your own test results" as possible. I cannot imagine someone saying "sorry, you have not extended your subscription to our health-cloud and your results are gone"

They could offer you a download link, that is valid for 10 days. Or since storage is cheap, stays valid. But why change a running system (and I have an external USB DVD device).

There is some utility unique to the dvd imo. It seems way more secure to me if another practitioner is just being handed a dvd direct from the imaging dept by the patient, compared to an emailed link that could be cloned in phishing attempts hospitals get. Anyone who expects to look at these images probably has a disk drive. It is kind of better than a thumb drive because its cheaper to make for the hospital but also can sit in a folder with other paperwork nicer than any thumb drive.

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Post by justsomehnguy »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #349
justsomehnguy wrote: post #334

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> This is something of a newer phenomenon in the grander history of anime as an artform It's hard to argue about 'a newer phenomenon' which is now closer to Astro Boy than our current time. > most of the popular anime had their runtimes padded all to hell in order to continually cash in on the unpredictable zeitgeist popularity of their source material You can't 'faithfully recreate shot-for-shot' an ongoing title, y…

>It's hard to argue about 'a newer phenomenon' which is now closer to Astro Boy than our current time. Last I checked, the 2010s are closer to now than to the 1960s. This didn't become the norm until the 2010s. I called out Death Note and Yu Yu Hakusho as notable exceptions and did note the initial start of it in smaller OVAs. I guess if you're going from the earliest OVA that did this then your comment does make sen…

> Last I checked, the 2010s are closer to now than to the 1960

That was a quip to "trend of creating manga-accurate adaptations was largely spawned during the mid-80's OVA boom"[0]

> until it has enough plot/action in the manga to cover a full season before entering production

Yes, though this is still not universal and still things go south with anime-original titles (WEP is 10/13, sadly)

> it used to be that anime would be produced while the manga was still ongoing and popular, which lead to filler as a much more common phenomenon.

> By all means, feel free to split hairs

Yes, I don't object this, though I was thinking more in how the media does not/translate. I even re-read Kaji/Akagi first story from Tsuredzure Children as this is the one best examples of a media adaptation.

[0] Gokushufudō would be an extreme modern 1:1, btw

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ah, read the sibling comment

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Post by autoexec »

pie420 wrote: post #364
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #259

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There's a difference between adaptation; and retelling the story in a way that damages the integrity of the original. Many of the above changes don't make sense even within the movie's own material. Even if the books didn't exist, Faramir's filmic story arc (as just one example) would be a badly executed example of character development.

The retelling of a story can never damage the integrity of the original, and it is very foolish of you to even suggest that it could. The original is always the original, and is unimpacted by anything that comes after... This is as silly as suggesting that Tolkien's work somehow tarnishes or damages nordic/germanic mythology. utterly ridiculous.

I get what you're saying but art doesn't exist in a vacuum. Newer works can add context and alter our perceptions of older works. Especially when people's first exposure to a work is an adaptation. Someone who has never read the lord of the rings, but has seen the movies several times will never be able to read the book without picturing Elijah Wood.

Strong feelings for an adaptation or a sequel can taint or enhance how someone feels about the source material even if the original was experienced first. For example, it's understandable if someone who really loved star wars before the prequels and disney acquisition found that they can't help but experience a sense of loss and disappointment while revisiting those original films knowing about midi-chlorians and how the franchise ended up.

The original works are unchanged, but in many cases the way we view and experience them isn't.

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