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Re: Even Microsoft Notepad is getting AI text editing now

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Post by rcxdude »

JohnFen wrote: post #320
lotsofpulp wrote: post #179

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They must be completely toothless laws considering the amount of product placement that is easily visible. The only thing that will change is automating product placement in what used to look like organic conversation, including on HN. Now I’ll go drink a nice, cold glass of tap water.

In the US, the laws just say that if you do product placement, you have to disclose you're doing it. If you do that, then there's no restrictions on product placement. I'm also not overly familiar with the scope of the law, so I don't know how much (or if) it applies to software of this sort.

It's not quite that simple, it's if you have a relationship with the seller of the product that the average viewer(tm) would not expect. So, e.g. product placement on daytime TV or quiz shows doesn't require disclosure, because the regulators/courts have decided that's what the average viewer would expect anyway. But anything on social media does require it, it seems. I think produce placement in LLM chatbots would probably qualify as unexpected, though.

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Post by rcxdude »

llm_nerd wrote: post #358
autoexec wrote: post #345

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> Ooof, boy is Apple in for a disaster with their iPhone and Mac products! Considering how fanatical Apple users can be about literally anything Apple throws at them they were not excited about AI https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/25-of-smartphone-owners-don... > Google, Microsoft, Oracle, Amazon, and all of the other big companies as well! They're doomed! Many of them are certainly in a bit of trouble because they've…

>Considering how fanatical Apple users can be about literally anything Apple throws at them they were not excited about AI No True Scotsman all over here. Where people embrace and adopt AI, it isn't real. But a million incredibly dumb sociology surveys of nebulous, imaginary things are super convincing. >Many of them are certainly in a bit of trouble Literally none of them are "in trouble". I mean, Google has kind of…

Have you not seen market hype cycles before? They don't necessarily correlate with success, and when they do it's not necessarily with the ones who sunk the most money in. see: .com bubble (which did eventually turn out to be huge, just not for most of the companies in the first wave), 3D TVs (which didn't, now dead), VR (still a bit in limbo, but the hype has died down from where it was, a lot of companies haven't recouped their investments). "Lots of companies are putting lots of money into it" does not mean it's actually a good idea.

(and honestly, I think the only data most people in the market are basing their decision off is 'chatGPT got a million users in 5 days'. But then, their monthly site visits are now down more than 90% from their peak. I think there is value in AI in general, but it's very over-hyped and there's a lot of quite frankly crap integrations which provide little to negative value)

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Post by a_e_k »

matteason wrote: post #181
mh- wrote: post #125

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That's the real issue. Tabs, fine. Remembering tabs, no.

You can disable it. Settings > When Notepad starts > Start new session and discard unsaved changes

Wow. I'd totally missed the Settings screen. Tiny little gear icon on the right...

(And cute: it spins when I click it. Blech.)

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Post by nuancebydefault »

sahmeepee wrote: post #360
nuancebydefault wrote: post #322

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That, and finally getting rid of keeping a lock on the file handle of the opened files. Sooo many times I needed explain someone that their directory could not get deleted or their apps failed to uninstall simply because they were still reading its readme.txt

Umm, not sure which version of notepad.exe keeps a lock on open files. None that I've used in the last 25 years.

Oh maybe i am still living in the past

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Post by amlib »

wruza wrote: post #321
dmurray wrote: post #258

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Is VLC really "complex software" if you just want to use it as a media player? Double click your media file, it plays. Play, pause, volume controls are where you'd guess they are. There's plenty of complexity underneath, but the happy path is simple. By contrast, "open this image and draw a single red circle in it" in GIMP is as challenging to a newbie as quitting vi. Even for an intermediate user - I use GIMP a hand…

It feels like GIMP was designed with user-hostility in mind. There’s no Paint.net for Linux, so I have to use GIMP from time to time for my gui server job needs. And gosh, I hate the damn thing. Every simple step in it is as hard as you can’t bear. (No I can’t use Krita for specific reasons and it isn’t much easier anyway)

If Krita isn't easy enough, then Photoshop isn't gonna be any easier. (assuming we are talking about simple/common stuff...)

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Post by tgum »

DCH3416 wrote: post #215
niam wrote: post #129

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They managed to make File Explorer itself considerably worse over time as well. They really pulled out the monkey's paw when I wished for tabs.

Why do people want tabs anyway? It's kind of clunky compared to just having smaller individual file explorer windows. Like you can't _really_ drag and drop files between tabs without the added time overhead of waiting for the tab to change. I assume most users are just full screen, list view-ing it though instead of the large icon view.

I usually like having just one window because having to alt-tab 5 times to get to chrome or something is kinda annoying imo

(im not sure if you can do that on windows actually)

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Post by stuaxo »

venusenvy47 wrote: post #301
dmurray wrote: post #258

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Is VLC really "complex software" if you just want to use it as a media player? Double click your media file, it plays. Play, pause, volume controls are where you'd guess they are. There's plenty of complexity underneath, but the happy path is simple. By contrast, "open this image and draw a single red circle in it" in GIMP is as challenging to a newbie as quitting vi. Even for an intermediate user - I use GIMP a hand…

I've used VLC forever and I had no idea there is anything more to it than playing media. It always seems to have the most recent codecs, so it doesn't seem crusty to me.

Go poking around in the menus and GUI there's a bunch of stuff in there.

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Post by wholinator2 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #340
BobaFloutist wrote: post #233

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VLC is pretty damn crusty, especially to anyone not familiar with that particular....design ethos. Don't get me wrong, it's an incredible endeavor and the developers deserve endless praise, but for people that aren't already familiar with navigating things like GIMP, KDE, Open/LibreOffice, it's not especially welcoming.

I agree. I too am a VLC hater. It's not just crusty, but often buggy and worse[1] than alternatives (I use Media Player Classic Home Cinema myself, despite it being dead for almost a decade). VLC is also ugly in a non-platform specific way. It's like a web app developed before web apps were a thing and doesn't feel at home in either Windows, MacOS, or Linux. Having said that, VLC is still my last resort when nothing…

The only problem I've ever run into with VLC was on their Android app they hid the audio sync setting for basically no reason. Other than that, I've never had a problem with it. Maybe i just haven't been exposed to the magic of perfect media players but VLC is vastly more feature rich than the defaults, "just works", and i don't think it looks bad at all!

In today's modern world of "UI Overhauls" (read: fucking everything up and taking away every useful power you had in the name of 'usability') it's basically god tier. The damn thing is stable, that's literally all i need. I'll learn the interface, just for the love of God don't change it every time i get used to it!

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Post by AlienRobot »

skydhash wrote: post #247
AlienRobot wrote: post #161

You laugh, but there is nothing as good as old Notepad on Linux. Every single built-in "basic" text editor of every single distro comes with syntax highlighting, line numbers, tabs, etc. I just want a rectangle to type text into. Notepad is turning into what Linux text editors already are: too complicated.

What about Ed, the standard text editor?

That's a terminal program.

I only consider graphical applications to be applications.

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Post by cam_l »

wruza wrote: post #321
dmurray wrote: post #258

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Is VLC really "complex software" if you just want to use it as a media player? Double click your media file, it plays. Play, pause, volume controls are where you'd guess they are. There's plenty of complexity underneath, but the happy path is simple. By contrast, "open this image and draw a single red circle in it" in GIMP is as challenging to a newbie as quitting vi. Even for an intermediate user - I use GIMP a hand…

It feels like GIMP was designed with user-hostility in mind. There’s no Paint.net for Linux, so I have to use GIMP from time to time for my gui server job needs. And gosh, I hate the damn thing. Every simple step in it is as hard as you can’t bear. (No I can’t use Krita for specific reasons and it isn’t much easier anyway)

I always thought this, but used it for a while for work and found it was actually quicker work-flow-wise than Photoshop (though Photoshop was better for photo editing) or Krita (and krita is way better for painting).

It was like, hidden underneath the janky gui, there was actually a lot of thought put into how things work together.

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