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Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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I'm actually very curious why AI use is such a bi-modal experience. I've used AI to move multi thousand line codebases between languages. I've created new apps from scratch with it. My theory is the willingness to baby sit and the modality. I'm perfectly fine telling the tool I use its errors and working side by side with it like it was another person. At the end of the day it can belt out lines of code faster than I…

I'm not sure how many people are like me, but my attempts to use Copilot have largely been the context of writing code as usual, occasionally getting end-of-line or handful-of-lines completions from it. I suspect there's probably a bigger shift needed, but I haven't seen anyone (besides AI "influencers" I don't trust..?) showing what their day-to-day workflows look like. Is there a Vimcasts equivalent for learning th…

Yeah using a chat interface

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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I use cursor and its tab completion; while what it can do is mind blowing, in practice I’m not noticing a productivity boost. I find that ai can help significantly with doing plumbing, but it has no problems with connecting the pipes wrong. I need to double and triple check the updated code - or fix the resulting errors when I don’t do that. So: boilerplate and outer app layers, yes; architecture and core libraries,…

Time will tell. As a GitHub Copilot user, I still review the code. SpaceX's advancements are impressive, from rocket blow up to successfully catching the Starship booster. Who knows what AI will be capable of in 5-10 years? Perhaps it will revolutionize code assistance or even replace developers

> or even replace developers

I don't think there will be a 'replace developers, but other work remains extant' moment - not at least for very long at all.

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If you want to destroy open source completely, the more models the better. Microsoft's co-opting and infiltration of OSS projects will serve as a textbook example of eliminating competition in MBA programs. And people still support it by uploading to GitHub.

It'll be okay. We "destroyed" photography by uploading to places like Instagram and Facebook but photography as a whole is still alive. It turns out even though there is lots of stealing, the world still spins and people still seek out original creators.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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> in practice I’m not noticing a productivity boost. How can this be possible if you literally admit its tab completion is mindblowing? Isn't really good tab completion good enough for at least a 5% producitvity boost? 10%? 20%? Select line of code, prompt it to refactor, verify they are good, accept the changes

> How can this be possible if you literally admit its tab completion is mindblowing? I might suggest that coding doesn't take as much of our time as we might think it does. Hypothetically: Suppose coding takes 20% of your total clock time. If you improve your coding efficiency by 10%, you've only improved your total job efficiency by 2%. This is great, but probably not the mind-blowing gain that's hyped by the AI boo…

> that's hyped by the AI boom

I always personally thought the AI boom was more about 'what can be done automation/improvement wise for non-tech industries'

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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I'm actually very curious why AI use is such a bi-modal experience. I've used AI to move multi thousand line codebases between languages. I've created new apps from scratch with it. My theory is the willingness to baby sit and the modality. I'm perfectly fine telling the tool I use its errors and working side by side with it like it was another person. At the end of the day it can belt out lines of code faster than I…

As a programmer of over 20 years - this is terrifying. I'm willing to accept that I just have "get off my lawn" syndrome or something. But the idea of letting an LLM write/move large swaths of code seems so incredibly irresponsible. Whenever I sit down to write some code, be it a large implementation or a small function, I think about what other people (or future versions of myself) will struggle with when interactin…

You still use type systems, tests, and code review.

For a lot of use cases it's powerful.

If you ask it to build out a brand new system with a complex algorithm or to perform a more complex refactoring, it'll be more work correcting it than doing it yourself.

But that malformed JSON document with the weird missing quotation marks (so the usual formatters break), and spaces before commas, and the indentation is wild... Give it to an LLM.

Or when you're writing content impls for a game based on a list of text descriptions, copy the text into a block comment. Then impl 1 example. Then just sit back and press tab and watch your profits.

Re: GitHub cuts AI deals with Google, Anthropic

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I assume you're not an AI model, but a real human being (I hope). The analogy "AI == human" just... doesn't work, really.

That’s beside the point. Me teaching my brain someone’s way of syntactically expressing procedures is analogous to AI developers teaching their model that same mode of expression.

No, a program that copies files is quite different to a human that writes those files data down and recalls them.
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