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People were dunking on the Cybertruck before Musk made that sharp turn into a political lightning rod around when COVID hit. I recall seeing discussion about how silly the car is, even during the height of his popularity.
People who are uninformed were trying to dunk. Dismissing its aerodynamics when it has a CD of .34; and decent efficiency per battery size. Ultimately ignorant terminally online people complain and dismiss what is the best selling ev truck. You can disagree, but you would be objectively wrong.
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I’m genuinely curious, on a 4-month old vehicle, why weren’t the three specific repairs and costs you list be covered under warranty?
All of the aforementioned things are 100% covered by warranty. The GPs comment is entirely made up, LARPing for internet points.
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I drive a Cybertruck as my daily driver and I don't even know about most of these.
I... Don't know how. The wheel cover issue had a service bulletin sent out to owners, and the suspension being stuck in the lowest position got an over the air update with a big notification. Those at least should've been known to you.
The suspension stuck in lowest issue.. really doesn't ring a bell. Maybe it was before my time? Or I glossed over the update notes when I did get it.
The point I was trying to make is that this vehicle's issues are widely reported to a disproportionate degree due to how notable and polarizing it is, to the point that random Cybertruck anti-fans know more about its flaws than the average owner.
Mine isn't flawless either, the tonneau cover requires some finagling to close, which is kind of annoying. So I'm not going to sing Tesla's praises about their QA standards either.
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#374My kids probably had the best comment: If Tesla had designed a real truck they would have sold millions.
Keep in mind this is the comment of teenagers who don't have a sense of the size and scale of markets. The point, however, should not be missed: There was an opportunity to enter a truck into the truck market, not an Ikea trash can on wheels.
Sometimes it is a good idea to listen to kids. I remember when one of Apple's original guiding principles of OS design was to make the computers usable by anyone, even young kids. A kid, in this case, does not see the utility of a truck that does not seem to fit the "form and function" of a truck, like an F150 or variants by other manufacturers.
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The Bolt looked nearly as dorky and they sold plenty of those. Even with the battery recall. I doubt GM made much if any profit though. LG chemicals sure didn't. The Ioniq 5 looks way better than both and of course it is doing numbers as a result. i3 was just expensive, low range, and overall not a competitive EV in the NA market.
I think the bolt looks fine? Especially the 2022+ versions. Biggest issue is the 50kw max charging rate imo.
Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US
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The thing is, the people most likely to complain that the Cybertruck is a bad vehicle are the people who are informed about it. The wider public doesn't know about things like the tonneau cover leaking, wheel bearings failing, the suspension being stuck down and causing tire rub, the aerodynamic wheel covers that were causing tire failures because they were puncturing the sidewalls, the upper control arms that bend l…
I think a simpler explanation is that terminally online people just don't like the politics of the CEO and like to take any chance to dunk on him. In a world that has been stagnant for decades in terms of design and doing things out the box, it's something at least trying to be different. Don't get all the hate
If we put the Musk Twitter/Trump/right wing stuff aside, there's still a big problem with Tesla and Musk in general: poor build quality especially on new product launches, exaggerations and lies about product capability, pricing, and the upcoming product roadmap, and the cult-like following that places Tesla's somewhat mundane product achievements on a pedastel.
For example, the idea that only Tesla is doing things out of the box, that they're the only ones who aren't stagnant...well, that's only true if you're in the cult and you ignore all the other carmakers. I don't think Kia/Hyundai's design is stagnant. I don't think the Chinese car industry is stagnant. I don't think the host of other EV startups like Rivian or Lucid are stagnant.
The Cybertruck doesn't have any unique features that other carmakers aren't doing besides having stainless steel panels that are literally glued on to the unibody frame and can't be painted. Toyota, the most boring car company, has steer by wire (Lexus RZ). If you buy a Rivian you get better range and capability. The Cybertruck isn't even the best EV truck, never mind the best truck of any powertrain.
And the final part of the Tesla hate is all the ways in which their "innovation" has been basically dangerous bullshit. Putting beta versions of self-driving code on the road, making a car with stainless steel panels that are not pedestrian safe, all their documented issues with plant safety and labor issues, removing physical controls for critical car functionality like gear shifting and turn signal stalks to generally deliver a car UI that encourages distracted driving more than perhaps any other brand. These types of things are the place where the "hate" becomes "justified outrage over corporate neglegence."
Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US
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I... Don't know how. The wheel cover issue had a service bulletin sent out to owners, and the suspension being stuck in the lowest position got an over the air update with a big notification. Those at least should've been known to you.
The wheel cover issues were in Feb, I got mine a few months later and it didn't come with wheel covers. I did know about that one though. The suspension stuck in lowest issue.. really doesn't ring a bell. Maybe it was before my time? Or I glossed over the update notes when I did get it. The point I was trying to make is that this vehicle's issues are widely reported to a disproportionate degree due to how notable and…
Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US
#378That thing is a monstrosity. This to me implies that EVs have peaked and only the market for vanity vehicles remains at this time Edit: I also have a suspicion that this is primarily due to them filling all the preorders. It’d be good to see a breakdown as to how many new orders people are placing after seeing this POS in real life.
> This to me implies that EVs have peaked That might be true, if the #2 selling car, and the #1 selling car were not also EVs. The Model Y is currently the second best selling vehicle of all kinds, and it very likely is about to overtake the F-150 as the most-selling vehicle, the first time the F-150 has been dethroned in 46 straight years. The sales numbers are saying we have not reached peak EV.
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People who are uninformed were trying to dunk. Dismissing its aerodynamics when it has a CD of .34; and decent efficiency per battery size. Ultimately ignorant terminally online people complain and dismiss what is the best selling ev truck. You can disagree, but you would be objectively wrong.
It is a truck in name only. Hardly usable as a truck