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Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by paul7986 »

smt88 wrote: post #340
paul7986 wrote: post #329

All AI image and video generators must be forced to add metadata and watermarks and all uploading technology (browsers, iphone & Android SDKs, etc and websites, apps, etc) need to publish/label AI Generated or not. Then search engines worth their salt can filter out the AI crap and boom we are back to how the Internet was or if you want to see the fake crap change the filter.

> All AI image and video generators must be forced to add metadata and watermarks and all uploading technology This is already impossible because it's impossible to enforce. You can't stop something running on a random laptop, and you can't stop models running on server farms in, say, North Korea.

Those for profit can be forced to add watermarks/metadata and uploading tech (Google Chrome, Apple, Google Android, Firefox all what the public uses now) can be forced too.

If it cant verify the source it could label it suspect :-). Just thinking here ... you got any other ideas or we are just going to let the Internet die by the hands of AI as Neil DeGrasse Tyson predicts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAuDmBYwLq4 or you just gonna downvote someone who tries to come up with solutions.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by anigbrowl »

stonethrowaway wrote: post #328

In the near future, certain talking points we wish to discuss won’t be allowed by the downvote/flagging mafia, so we’ll link to Reddit instead while proclaiming how HN is so much better than those plebs over there.

Irrelevant to the topic at hand. Stealing people's attention for your pet issue is rude.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by Gigachad »

notyourwork wrote: post #344
spaceribs wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There isn't, because human trust can barely scale past 100 people, much less the entire internet. I think humans will recede into the tribes we were always built to understand and be a part of. Private group chats are far more popular and ubiquitous than we give them credit for, and I only see that accelerating in this climate.

Private chats which effectively become echo chambers further dividing an already divided society is what I foresee.

"Echo chambers" have been the default for almost all of human civilization right up until about 10-20 years ago. You communicated with your immediate circle of friends and coworkers rather than arguing politics with LLM bots on Twitter.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by anigbrowl »

paul7986 wrote: post #329

All AI image and video generators must be forced to add metadata and watermarks and all uploading technology (browsers, iphone & Android SDKs, etc and websites, apps, etc) need to publish/label AI Generated or not. Then search engines worth their salt can filter out the AI crap and boom we are back to how the Internet was or if you want to see the fake crap change the filter.

Might be simpler to have uploads/indexing requires metadata to not be categorized as trash.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by Gigachad »

happytoexplain wrote: post #321

It's not just images. I frequently get genAI word salad in the top three to five results when I google anything that could be considered a common question. You don't even realize at first when you start reading. Then it makes you start to question the things that aren't obviously genAI. You can sort of tell the kinds of things that a human might be wrong about, the ways in which they're wrong, how they sound when the…

Tbh I think this is just it for the public internet. It's not Google that's failing, it's the substance of the public internet that has failed. Whenever I need help or questions answered on something, I don't google it, I don't post on public forums, I ask on private group chats where I know everyone is a real person, no one is making money, no one is copy pasting chatgpt to collect internet points to sell their account later.

There is only one way I can see things changing and people aren't going to like it. All content on the internet gets linked to a legal ID. Every post on facebook, every comment can be attributed to a real person.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by fpoling »

ivanjermakov wrote: post #323

It's is more about Google search than it is about the internet. There was a period in the past when human spam was a problem that was not trivial to solve. As always, modern problems require modern solutions.

The most effective spam filtering is done not by content but by various white and black lists of providers. Essentially it is a trust score which is a very old solution to a lot of problems.

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by anigbrowl »

joshdavham wrote: post #346

I'm actually a bit excited by this problem, believe it or not. Like what solutions are we gonna come up with to solve it? Is the human side of the internet (however we create it) going to become more pure? Perhaps in discovering ways to avoid low quality AI content, we'll also find ways to escape from destructive recommender systems and monetized advertisements as well. Strange as it sounds, solving this problem coul…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Queen_hypothesis

(also noteworthy for the 'Publication' section near the bottom)

Re: Nearly all of the Google images results for "baby peacock" are AI generated

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Post by 0x1ceb00da »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #365
jeffbee wrote: post #330

A "baby peacock" is not a thing, so I honestly don't see the search quality issue here. The text "baby peacock" is associated with these fabricated images.

Baby male peafowls don't exist?

They're called peachicks.
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