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Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…

Cocomelon are already focus group testing their addictive hypnotic kids videos. They don't need millions of kids to develop this crack for kids, just a dozen or so.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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I think where these products fall flat is the fact that people don't want a computer strapped to their faces.

> I think where these products fall flat is the fact that people don't want a computer strapped to their faces.

A winning strategy for a V1 product imo is a minimalist augmented reality overlay for life applications that a person's phone will do most of the processing to generate.

Google Glass but proper augmented reality rather than a simple HUD.

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While still pretty clunky, I think I'd rather wear these for extended periods of time than Vision Pro glasses (100g vs 600g). This is the type of v1 minimalist design I was hoping Apple would go for. I assume Apple investigated this path but realized they would be cost prohibitive? (although when has that ever stopped Apple before?)

Vision Pro is an XR device not purely AR.

So there are many things very important to Apple e.g. running apps, creating content, watching movies etc. that AR glasses are completely useless for.

Never really understand why people keep comparing AR to XR. Very different use cases.

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Imo this "mobile AR" is a stupid product category. This category is like Apple Watch on your face. You get to look at notifications, AR popups, messages and so on. It's mostly for consuming light-weight content on the go. First product in this category was the Google Glass. This category focuses on mobility, instead of pushing computing capability. In another category, we have PCVR and Vision Pro, which are optimized…

The point of AR is all the new stuff you can do with it. For example, imagine running facial recognition on it to remind you the name of someone you met once a year ago. Or having your map route overlayed as a blue trail like a videogame.

Without new future apps, it’s just a toy but with them, it’s the next iphone.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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I've long been a huge skeptic of the whole Metaverse project/undertaking, I think I've called it a smoking crater where ten billion dollars used to be. But this is really interesting: it sounds like the display works, and it sounds like the puck is workable, and it sounds like both can squeak above the line in terms of battery life. If those things are true I may turn out to have been completely wrong. I don't know t…

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Because when you make a strong (some might say strident) assertion in a forum, and you think you may have done so in error based on new information, it's just good manners to acknowledge that you may have been mistaken.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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If it works as advertised, yeah, it's cool, it's useful.

But I just can't muster the excitement about this sort of thing anymore, the way I used to be able to.

This is a toxin. It's going to make our teenagers sad to the point of depression. It's going to stunt their physical development. It's going to replace the warmth of human connection with a shallow surrogate that will feel like we can't do without, but never quite gets us what we really want.

Let's just each for ourselves choose not to go down this path.

Let's seek out effort instead of comfort, and let's build our reality together out there in the real world.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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I met a lady once, we were in a line at DefCon. She worked on these and was quite concerned that they'd end up on the heads of children, feeding content-reaction biometrics about those children to people who would then use that data to manipulate those children in harmful ways. I'm curious if people think that that's worth worrying about, or if the idea of optimizing ad placement based on whether it makes your pupils…

Meta spends a lot more money trying not to read children's data than actually read it. You can't even bid to serve ads to people under 18 on Meta.

Re: Orion, our first true augmented reality glasses

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Yup. My first thought was that they look like "BCGs". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GI_glasses

Except 4x thicker

No, looks to be almost the exact dimensions of the MS9. Would definitely be indiscernible in feel too.
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