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Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by weberer »

MavisBacon wrote: post #338
cameldrv wrote: post #142

Makes sense given the current financials. The way you make money in social media is to get people pissed off and arguing with each other. Preventing someone from seeing things that make them mad is just leaving money on the table that they can't afford anymore.

Going to have to agree with this. A semi-related anecdote- I spend an embarrassing amount of time on a music message board with a probably ~97% American user base. It's dedicated to a specific American band but is bizarrely active considering there has not been a UI update of note for maybe 20 years. Parts of the UI have always been frustrating but the culture within the community was palpable and a lot of people gre…

I want you to read your post again, but keep in mind that the American population tends to vote around 50-50 Democrat-Republican in each election. Instead of simply assuming that you're reading posts from the other 50% who also want to have a voice, you're jumping into weird conspiracy theories.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by bagels »

smcl wrote: post #351
sschueller wrote: post #342

This is a bit like people complaining that creeps are looking at them at the gym while they are filming for their public IG. Either it's public or it's not.

I have literally never encountered this. If people (plural) are calling you a creep for what you do in the gym you might want to do some reflection on whether you're actually the one in the wrong

It's this whole weird tiktok meme. The tiktokers are the bad guys. They just go in the gym record themselves posing and to complain about anyone walking in to their shot.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by chii »

ragazzina wrote: post #368
bugtodiffer wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yeah on their screen? How can blocking influence the ranking?

I guess all the people that could disagree and downvote just do not see the comment.

i think there should be an option, where you automatically downvote a blocked user's post/comment, even without seeing it.

If that user doesn't have many people blocking them, then this will barely affect the votes. If they have tonnes of blockers, then would indicate that they probably deserved it, and the downvotes would make sense anyway.

It would prevent echo chambers from forming.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by chii »

GenerocUsername wrote: post #293
zzo38computer wrote: post #278

I do not use The X Formerly Known As Twitter, but if I write a message that is intended to be public (regardless of what service it is on), I would intend that people I had blocked are still able to see the message (and make copies of it) if they wish; I would block them because I don't want to see their messages and I do not want to allow them to send messages to me. I would also not want the number of users who blo…

This. There is no such thing as blocked on a public platform. Everyone has always known viewing the site incognito allows you to see blocked content.

a large portion of twitter posts actually require a logged in account to view.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by MavisBacon »

weberer wrote: post #371
MavisBacon wrote: post #338

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Going to have to agree with this. A semi-related anecdote- I spend an embarrassing amount of time on a music message board with a probably ~97% American user base. It's dedicated to a specific American band but is bizarrely active considering there has not been a UI update of note for maybe 20 years. Parts of the UI have always been frustrating but the culture within the community was palpable and a lot of people gre…

I want you to read your post again, but keep in mind that the American population tends to vote around 50-50 Democrat-Republican in each election. Instead of simply assuming that you're reading posts from the other 50% who also want to have a voice, you're jumping into weird conspiracy theories.

Choose to believe what you'd like. Economist isn't reporting on this it's a silly little message board.

100% everyone should have a voice. That said, harassment and abuse shouldn't be tolerated on the internet if we don't tolerate it easily out in the real world. I don't use the word troll lightly, people were getting stalked and doxxed.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by chii »

ImPostingOnHN wrote: post #332
Jordrok wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point of blocking is to prevent harassment, no? Hiding the blocker's posts from the blockee puts up an additional barrier to interaction. Even if it can be circumvented, it still requires some effort and may dissuade the person from continuing the harassment. There is a reason why this is the standard implementation for almost every social media site, and petulance has nothing to do with it.

The point of blocking is to prevent harassment, no? No, the point is "I don't like this person for whatever reason so I don't want to see their posts". "I don't want this person to see my public posts" can be done by making an account private, or not posting the posts publicly. Otherwise it opens the door to trollish behavior like reply-and-block-to-prevent-retort. To stop harassment, reach out to the platform, assum…

> can be done by making an account private, or not posting the posts publicly

but not the criteria where you _want_ other people to see your posts publicly.

aka, the ask is to allow individuals to "excommunicate" a particular user, not just blocking.

I'm glad, tho, that twitter does not allow this. I think having this feature allows for echo chambers...(tho, this is currently already true so may be it's moot...?)

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by naitgacem »

I think this sounds reasonable. This is based on an anecdotal where my university page blocked me on Facebook. And for some reason everything is posted there, schedules, announcements, exam schedules, important sign-up procedures...

I rely solely on accessing the page without logging in in incognito mode. Or people screenshot/forwarding relevant links and announcements.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by sph »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #341
sph wrote: post #334

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bluesky is the weirdest echo chamber of white liberal queer Americans, it feels like entering a museum or a theme park where everyone is the same, posts the same things, and agrees with each other to demonise the same things. With Twitter being the cesspool of humanity—but with a ton of variety and opinions—I don't know which is worse, so I use neither.

That's a little unfair of a description. It comes down to who you're following, I guess. For example, something like 70% of Bluesky's content is in Portuguese.

Last I tried it, I wasn't following anyone so was sampling the public feed, and most posts were about identity politics or how bad Twitter is compared to BlueSky. An echo chamber, certainly you wouldn't find anything about Arstotzka nor Cobrastan on there right now.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by IG_Semmelweiss »

MavisBacon wrote: post #369
melodyogonna wrote: post #358

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My stance on moderation is that if it is not illegal the user should block accounts posting things they don't want to see. The algorithm is designed to create an echo chamber for you and will eventually do so given the right signals.

Referring to my anecdote- how is that navigated when you have you have 100+ troll accounts with dozens handles though? User is left spending a significant portion of their time blocking accounts. On the board I mentioned there is the added issue of still being able to see blocked users get quoted by those who you don't block. Also I understand Musk's position in spirit but, IME it isn't a sustainable or beneficial ap…

Whatsapp is having the same bot issue, with large groups getting spam from bots.

The problem is even worse than in twitter. So now the group admin isforced to close groups by requiring group admin approval.

This is clearly the best type of moderation: localized and user-driven. It is not top down.

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