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Post by reissbaker »

bmurphy1976 wrote: post #191

I wish Apple had more design variation for their watches. When I'm not using my phone, it's in my pocket. When I am using it, I honestly only care about the screen, the camera, and the audio. If it looks cool great BUT that ultimately doesn't matter. Watches are different. Watches are a true fashion accessory. Watches have style. Apple watches are so damn plain and boring and sterile. Swapping the band doesn't fix th…

The large version of the Pixel Watch 3, with the brushed silver metal links band [1], isn't quite the same aesthetic as the Fossil 6 but is a lot closer to it than the Apple Watch. And it's reasonably good as a smartwatch, is based around the tech Google bought when they acquired Fitbit, and (unlike the Fossil 6) will continue to be supported by software updates.

Also unlike the Apple Watch, the SpO2 sensor actually works on the Pixel.

(I am a new, happy owner of the large version of the Pixel Watch 3 with the silver metal band.)

The slightly annoying thing about the Pixel Watch though is that you kind of have to decide on the watch band color you want prior to buying the watch, since the watch itself comes in different colors and it looks better when the colors match (i.e. if you want the silver band, you should make sure to get the silver watch base; if you want the black band, you should get the black watch base; etc).

1: https://store.google.com/product/watch_band_metal_link

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Post by tymscar »

unshavedyak wrote: post #204
crooked-v wrote: post #78

Calling an 18-hour battery life 'all day' still feels like at best borderline fraud to me.

I wear it 23.25+~ hours a day and charge it while i drink coffee in the morning (probably 30-45m on average, while i sit at my desk). I wear it all day, and while i sleep for sleep tracking. I get annoyed when they say 18h and people freak out.. i'm not sure what they're testing vs my daily usage but it doesn't feel the same. I assume it's like 18h with a ton of screen-on time? Either way i wouldn't wear a watch that…

I have a launch day Series 6 (4 years old) with 78% battery health, that I wear all day everyday, and charge in the evening for 30 or so minutes. So it easily lasts 23.5 hours and by that point its at around 25-30% battery life. I genuinely cant understand where the 18 hours they predict come from!

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

lolinder wrote: post #363
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #92

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You mean like Harley Davidson? Ya, they have more buying power, but they are choosey about what they buy and aren't so interested in new gadgets. Younger people have less buying power but they are full of wants. They also get more money and will buy more over time, whereas baby boomers are going to retire quickly and their buying will fall off.

You're still reasoning backwards. Apple produces new gadgets that appeal to young people, so they don't have as strong consumption from older people. That's a decision they made, but there's nothing baked into the laws of the universe that prevented them from designing around older consumers. > They also get more money and will buy more over time, whereas baby boomers are going to retire quickly and their buying will…

Consumption != purchasing power. To say young people have outside portion consumption compared to their numbers isn't very controversial at all in retail. It is why advertising is geared toward young people, why NBC couldn't make money on Matlock and Golden Girls (they were very popular, but the ad dollars were not there), why you go broke aiming at a 60 yro demographic rather than a 20 yro one.

You are just claiming that the market is being inefficient, but they have been burned so many times before assuming that somehow the 40+ crowd is going to drive the market for new things.

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Post by mvkel »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #351

I can’t believe all the bellyaching about battery life here, blanket statements about how it’s “useless” because it doesn’t meet one’s personal preferences. Apple has sold more Watches than iPods. Remember iPods??!? The Watch is a huge hit and tons of people find daily charging to be a perfectly acceptable price of entry.

Totally. These things have incredible battery life. In a practical sense, they run forever if you remember to put one on the charger when you shower/get ready in the morning.

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Post by sanswork »

WillPostForFood wrote: post #355
sanswork wrote: post #275

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How often do you track exercise with it? That watch looks like it doesn't actually run anything on it except a heart rate monitor and is just a passive bluetooth enabled notification display so that would definitely explain the difference in power usage.

Yes, for sure it does much less. It just has basic health monitoring, steps, heartbeat, sleep. I have the continuous heartbeat monitoring off, and turn it on for workouts 3-4 times a week. It will show messages, email, or other app notifications. For me that's most of what I want from a smartwatch, and I'm willing to trade the more advanced features for the battery life.

Ok but you can understand why comparing the battery life between these two makes no sense right?

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Post by sanswork »

wubrr wrote: post #350
sanswork wrote: post #277

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Does it have the worst battery life on the market when comparing like to like? Garmin isn't like to like since it's not really a smart watch it's an exercise tracker. What are android watches like for battery life that would be a better comparison.

Yes it does, and I can give you many examples. However, the following thing you said tells me that having a rational conversation with you is unlikely: > Garmin isn't like to like since it's not really a smart watch it's an exercise tracker.

And like people who complain that apples laptops are too expensive you'll be bringing out examples with far fewer features, slower processors, worse displays and battery lives that only exist when the user doesn't track or run anything I'm guessing.

If you think Garmin watches are at all comparable to apple watches while still maintaining those long battery lives you've never used a Garmin watch for anything.

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Post by sureIy »

serf wrote: post #288
mulderc wrote: post #129

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I wear my Apple Watch all the time, even when I'm sleeping. I pretty much just charge it when I'm in the shower or getting ready in the morning. It charges super fast, and I've found that having a regular charging routine is actually better for these gadgets. Funny enough, watches with longer battery life can mess up your charging habits. I had this problem with my old Pebble watch. Yeah, the battery lasted longer, b…

every single Apple feature or change creates this kind of weird negative-metric-reinforcement no matter the product whenever the number slides backwards or keeps parity Battery doesn't last long? Well, let's forget that the entire market has trended towards catering to a customer desire for long-life batteries -- it's a feature to help coordinate 'charging habits'!... whatever that is. Less keyboard space and battery…

Every tool has a correct way to be used. You can’t tell me I shouldn’t slide my electric toothbrush from side to side “because of market forces”.

Battery technology just isn’t there. Bigger battery means heavier device. Duracell made a smartphone with a huge-ass multiday battery… that the market did not ask for. It has to be a compromise unfortunately.

As for the Touch Bar I don’t really understand the hate for it. The execution was subpar but I miss its ability to autofill forms just like on the iPhone and generally using the autocomplete UI the same way. There’s no replacement now.

As for the batteries, I hope they’re eventually forced to fold on that issue, but it will come at the expense of design, size and weight. Again a compromise.

The reception one you’re right.

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Post by seanhunter »

grujicd wrote: post #186
mulderc wrote: post #129

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I wear my Apple Watch all the time, even when I'm sleeping. I pretty much just charge it when I'm in the shower or getting ready in the morning. It charges super fast, and I've found that having a regular charging routine is actually better for these gadgets. Funny enough, watches with longer battery life can mess up your charging habits. I had this problem with my old Pebble watch. Yeah, the battery lasted longer, b…

When you notice your Garmin is under 10% it still means full day or enough battery to track 2-3h activity and still have some battery left. I'm surprised Apple watch battery is still - more or less the worst in the industry. Even if we forget about Garmin, comparable Samsung watches are multiday devices.

With my Garmin, I know 10% battery is probably almost enough battery for it to get a GPS lock.

Maybe. If I keep still for about 20mins and there aren't any buildings around.

And it's not a cloudy day.

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Post by sureIy »

dyauspitr wrote: post #330
bombcar wrote: post #221

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My band doesn't feel right when I'm done exercising, so I usually throw it on the charger when I sit down. Now if it could charge from the face while still on my wrist ...

They’re never gonna do that. What would that look like, you holding your hand next to a charger? That is very unApple.

Vision Pro’s battery fits in your pocket. Cables falling from your body isn’t a new thing for Apple.

But yeah I don’t see it happening because they’d never acknowledge that taking your watch off twice a day is a chore.

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