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Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

mynameisvlad wrote: post #362
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #359

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Egh… no. They wanted the FDA to put it under NDA for 75 years. Which a judge said was bull. https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/paramount-importanc... https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/why-a-... I don’t have to be anti-vax at all (and I’ve got the full regular schedule) to say that’s acting suspicious and like you have something to hide.

> Egh… no. They wanted the FDA to put it under NDA for 75 years. Which a judge said was bull. Cool, how does that any way shape or form relate to this discussion? Did they make the claim that they are 100% safe and will never cause interactions ever? If so, show me the exact quote where they said that. There are many reasons to ask for an NDA, and lying is only one of them. Hanlon’s razor and all that. Are the number…

A. I didn’t say they did cause cancer. I don’t believe they do. I am sympathetic to those who want more investigation.

B. Hanlon’s razor is flawed, as well-executed malice is indistinguishable from stupidity.

C. Contrarywise, you are choosing to believe that it is not suspicious behavior; when being suspicious of a company with decades of fines and convictions is arguably quite reasonable.

D. There are many reasons for your wife to not be talking to you, have a dating profile, and have legal letters in the mail. Divorce planning is just one of them.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by xnx »

lchengify wrote: post #73

Was shocked to hear this news. I worked for Google years ago but I was in the NYC office, so we didn't run into the YouTube folks much. Opinions about YouTube may be mixed here on HN, but it is objectively one of the most successful businesses in tech or media to emerge in the past 15 years. If it weren't buried inside Alphabet, Youtube would be worth on the order of $400 billion, more than Disney and Comcast combine…

The way YouTube was caught offguard by TikTok is even more significant than than the way Google was caught offguard by ChatGPT.

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by tshaddox »

talldayo wrote: post #334
mrkramer wrote: post #145

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>Opinions about YouTube may be mixed here on HN, but it is objectively one of the most successful businesses in tech or media to emerge in the past 15 years. I was always critical of YouTube from the sort of technical perspective than just pure UX. The core product and the core UX are great and I'm even considering getting YouTube Premium because I use YouTube so much. All in all, YouTube was and still is internet ph…

> and I'm even considering getting YouTube Premium Why? Serious question, too. You can sideload clients that give you every single feature of YouTube Premium for free. Unless you're expressly lazy, like being taken advantage of or enjoy watching advertisements, there's really no excuse. YouTube Premium is the "I'm trapped in this place and you people have finally gotten me" fee - you can circument it all together by…

> Unless you're expressly lazy

Yes, that’s me. I sometimes even pay other people to prepare meals and manufacture clothing for me!

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by redsaz »

meiraleal wrote: post #157
cowsup wrote: post #124

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I feel like there's an unwritten "recently" in there. If you were to speak ill of Colonel Sanders, nobody would berate you for speaking ill of the dead. But when a CEO like Wojcicki, who made changes that were unpopular to the end-users (but helped turn YouTube into an actual profitable company) dies, it's considered very impolite to use that opportunity to bad-mouth decisions she made. When her son died earlier this…

> "Don't say things that will hurt the feelings of those who are grieving" I for one would prefer "don't get attached to evil people"

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Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by danjl »

whyenot wrote: post #342

I went to school with her starting in elementary school on the Stanford campus through high school at Gunn. My mom was one of her teachers and just told me “this is so sad, she was such a beautiful kid. She went on to do amazing things.” Yes, she did.

Susan lived four houses away from me on Tolman Dr.and I remember walking to Nixon elementary school carrying our instruments for music on Thursdays. Such a rough final year and such a wonderful life. RIP

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Post by sunaookami »

mewpmewp2 wrote: post #289
xanderlewis wrote: post #106

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A lot of YouTubers have been very critical of YouTube’s approach to things and treatment of creators in the past. Also, just as an example, YouTube demonetises (and therefore effectively punishes) you for using words like ‘suicide’ so now we have to say silly things like ‘unalive’ — at least until Google/the advertisers catch on. These days YouTube is more censored than traditional TV.

Demonetisation is not the same as censoring though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilling_effect

Re: Susan Wojcicki has died

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Post by SoftTalker »

tsimionescu wrote: post #170
sytelus wrote: post #166

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YouTube is absolutely the business that is resting on laurels, just like Google Maps and Gmail. Sometime I wonder if these products have any real active development teams at all besides ads. YouTube massively screwed with users by forcing poorly executed botched migration to YouTube Music. Even outsiders can see that this was entirely internal Google politics which powerful people like Wojcicki should have been able…

> It never got around to incentivize creators to produce concise content and to this day creators keep producing massive 30 min diatribe that could have been done in 3 mins. Why on Earth would you want shorter videos? The best thing about YouTube is that it's one of the only places you can find quality medium-to-long-form content.

YouTube videos were originally limited to 5 or 10 minutes I think. And probably 480p or so. You have to remember when it started, video on mobile didn't exist and there was absolutely no bandwidth for it. So people watching YouTube were watching it on their PC, probably with a 1024x768 CRT screen, and that's assuming they had something faster than dial-up internet.

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Post by talldayo »

sulam wrote: post #354
talldayo wrote: post #334

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> and I'm even considering getting YouTube Premium Why? Serious question, too. You can sideload clients that give you every single feature of YouTube Premium for free. Unless you're expressly lazy, like being taken advantage of or enjoy watching advertisements, there's really no excuse. YouTube Premium is the "I'm trapped in this place and you people have finally gotten me" fee - you can circument it all together by…

Why do I pick up trash off the floor that I didn’t put there? Why do I tip for good service? Why do I bother responding to posts like this? The answer is the same to all these questions: because I’d rather not live in a world where everyone is a taker.

You're not picking up trash. You're paying for trash and encouraging the ad-littering business by even acknowledging it exists. If you consider advertising bad enough to pay money to get rid of it, why would you pay that money to the business putting up ads? Because you refuse to leave their client? Because you don't want to acknowledge the scary world of choosing something better?

I see a lot of people say this, where they despise YouTube and it's advertisement scheme but somehow mentally justify it to themselves that Google deserves their $10/month. Before any of you ask "What's wrong with the world these days!?" again, reflect on what you're paying for and how these companies sucker you into buying it. The free market can pound sand, Google has you right where they want you.

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Post by wetpaws »

talldatethrow wrote: post #38
seydor wrote: post #37

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just say that there are a lot of idiots in the world

On both sides probably. One side exaggerates statistics to make their point, and the other wishfully accepts unproven statements to feel better. I've taken basically all vaccines ever recommended while growing up and traveling, but to say that the covid vaccine was "safe and effective" a year after coming out was a crazy stretch. Why couldn't they just say "we didn't have time to do long term studies, but we think it…

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