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Google and Meta struck secret ads deal to target teenagers

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Post by mixmastamyk »

markovs_gun wrote: post #339
mrguyorama wrote: post #243

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If the "Craftsman" brand of tools didn't go completely out of business despite removing the lifetime warranty and just slapping the brand name on cheap chinese tools, then "Reputational damage" does not exist.

Yep. Reputational damage is a thing of the past in a world where everyone is completely bombarded with useless and incorrect information 24/7. Maybe it was never a thing at all, and companies merely assumed it was as a theoretical. Either way, I have never seen any brand actually suffer long term because of their reputation.

Tarnished brands change their name these days.

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Post by valianteffort »

325125 wrote: post #316
burningChrome wrote: post #282

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I remember a ton of vaping threads extoling the idea vaping was totally safe on Reddit. When people brought up the possible negative side effects of vaping they were routinely downvoted into oblivion. Nobody wanted to believe vaping was dangerous are could have harmful side effects.

What are the harmful side effects if you don't have a preexisting health condition?

Your body has no mechanism for purging oil residue from your lungs. The frequency at which vape users would be flooding their lungs with those vaporized oils was akin to someone starting out as a pack a day heavy smoker.

Tar as I understand it does break down very slowly over time but many smoke at a greater rate than it can be broken down and smoke itself is a worse irritant than oil vapor.

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Post by chrz »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #191
cantrevealname wrote: post #33

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> the remaining ungrouped users, by process of elimination..." This being hacker news, I can't help but appreciate the pure evil genius of this. It reminds me of some other cases cunning corporate ingenuity: - Monsanto and their "terminator" seeds that prevents farmers from planting seeds they harvest, requiring them to purchase new seeds for every planting.[1] - Volkswagen and how they programmed diesel engines to a…

Monsanto isn’t forcing anyone to buy their product. Farmers use it because they’re better than uncopyeighted seeds.

They were buying farms out and suing neighbour farmers for using monsato seeds blown by wind from their farms. Theyre pure evil. They have a deal with Bayer

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Post by HDThoreaun »

chrz wrote: post #373
HDThoreaun wrote: post #191

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Monsanto isn’t forcing anyone to buy their product. Farmers use it because they’re better than uncopyeighted seeds.

They were buying farms out and suing neighbour farmers for using monsato seeds blown by wind from their farms. Theyre pure evil. They have a deal with Bayer

There are zero cases of monsanto suing farmers for seeds blown by the wind.

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Post by ndriscoll »

galkk wrote: post #338
ndriscoll wrote: post #198

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Personally, I plan to prepare my kids by keeping them away from as many sources of advertising as possible and teaching them how to do the same when they're older. e.g. they're completely unaware of the existence of anything Disney-related.

Do you have kids now? I was in the same boat (try to avoid any branded toys etc), but it’s just impossible, unless you avoid any socialization. I see that on the example of Frozen. Kids in daycare, wearing Elsa dresses. Kids in playgrounds, wearing same dresses. Backpacks, t-shirts with sisters from Frozen… unfortunately, that battle seems to be lost already. Huge bookshelves at book stores with books with Taylor Swi…

My wife stays at home and we may end up homeschooling, so with any luck we'll be able to filter peers some. Right now they're still young, but cartoon brand shirts on kids at the playground don't register because they have no idea what e.g. Frozen is. It's just a girl or a snowman or whatever.

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Post by chrz »

HDThoreaun wrote: post #374
chrz wrote: post #373

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They were buying farms out and suing neighbour farmers for using monsato seeds blown by wind from their farms. Theyre pure evil. They have a deal with Bayer

There are zero cases of monsanto suing farmers for seeds blown by the wind.

Hmm true, I was lied by internet it seems. But https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2013/feb/12/monsanto...

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Post by tekknik »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #365
tekknik wrote: post #349

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take a complex solution that doesn’t actually solve the problem and make it more complex so then it solves it, yet still doesn’t. a less complex solution, let companies like apple do what they do and allow ad blockers and develop an AI feature for removing them. people still seeing ads these days are doing so by choice.

> people still seeing ads these days are doing so by choice. Hey, you might not know, but there exists this place called "the outside", where there are no adblockers, no AI, but A LOT of ads. Severly limiting ads would solve that too. Adblocks wouldn't.

nobody is forcing you to look at anything. unless you’re in Asia, the rest of the world has what, a billboard occasionally?

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Post by tekknik »

ath3nd wrote: post #358
tekknik wrote: post #345

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> it's capitalism to blame it doesn’t matter how many times this is said, rational people know the issue is with humans and not capitalism. we can’t keep giving human behavior a pass and blaming systems that literally cannot take any action on their own. we see this with guns as well, the problem is not the system nor the laws, the problem is people. i wish you luck in fixing people, as many have tried before you and…

The solution to guns is simple. Ban guns and make ownership hard. It's the same reason you don't allow 10 year-olds to operate a vehicle, cause it can be a danger to society. > it doesn’t matter how many times this is said, rational people know the issue is with humans and not capitalism. This statement is the equivalent of hand waving. Capitalism is a system made by humans, it's not some divine order. We have topple…

> The solution to guns is simple. Ban guns and make ownership hard.

But then this is stepping on an enumerated right. If we remove or make it difficult the right to own guns, what’s next? Freedom of speech? That one was attacked recently as well. So no the solution is not to further limit rights due to the hoplophobia of a few, the solution is actually what you’re trying to stop. Prior to recent history, it was quite common for a child to have a gun. They didn’t go around shooting people then, so what’s different? (removing morality such that people are only scared of breaking laws, and nothing else).

The rest I didn’t read because this isn’t a blog and you tried to compare capitalism with feudalism.

I understand capitalism doesn’t allow you to be lazy and have no job, but that’s a feature not a bug.

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Post by tekknik »

markovs_gun wrote: post #346
tekknik wrote: post #343

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> Does it really matter if it's opt-in when insurance companies are going to make the price without the "discounts" you get for opting in completely unaffordable for most people? let’s be accurate with statements yes? i was offered one of these devices, refused it, and my rates did not increase. you’re claiming the rates people have been paying are lower than after they refuse the device. This is incorrect.

That's not the mechanism by which this happens. It's likely illegal (or at the very least, a bad look PR wise) for them to increase your rates based on your refusal to be spied on, but the base price will likely increase as the adoption of technologies like this becomes more widespread, and the discounts will become a more important part of how people afford car insurance. It's not that your specific policy will go f…

Inflation will also do that. So are you mad at the current administration for increasing the prices of all policies?

in reality so long as there still competition and the gov keeps their regulatory noses out of it, then competition alone will take care of it.

Besides, the devices are embedded into cars now so this is entirely a nonissue going forward. Everybody already has one and your driving data is being sent to insurance companies without you even knowing.

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Post by ath3nd »

tekknik wrote: post #378
ath3nd wrote: post #358

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The solution to guns is simple. Ban guns and make ownership hard. It's the same reason you don't allow 10 year-olds to operate a vehicle, cause it can be a danger to society. > it doesn’t matter how many times this is said, rational people know the issue is with humans and not capitalism. This statement is the equivalent of hand waving. Capitalism is a system made by humans, it's not some divine order. We have topple…

> The solution to guns is simple. Ban guns and make ownership hard. But then this is stepping on an enumerated right. If we remove or make it difficult the right to own guns, what’s next? Freedom of speech? That one was attacked recently as well. So no the solution is not to further limit rights due to the hoplophobia of a few, the solution is actually what you’re trying to stop. Prior to recent history, it was quite…

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