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Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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It's SO BAD when people say ":just pipe this shell script to bash!" for their installers. I just can't take those projects seriously if they think that's acceptable.

I am curious - if they provided a link to the script instead, would it have been ok? If you want to see the code before running, you can just redirect to a file before running it.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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post #368

It's SO BAD when people say ":just pipe this shell script to bash!" for their installers. I just can't take those projects seriously if they think that's acceptable.

You can review the bash script first. Regardless, they provide a few different installation options https://zed.dev/docs/linux

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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If you run xeyes and the eyes follow your cursor when it's above the application you want to test, it's running under xwayland. If they don't follow your cursor, the application is running under native Wayland.

finally a use for xeyes?

I always run xeyes in any net-enabled gui. iykyk.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Yep that helps a ton, thanks. Now it behaves more like nvim, and cursors around much faster - $ time vim -c 'syn off' tt.json real 0m3.277s user 0m1.690s sys 0m0.349s

Interesting. I expected it to be near instant without syntax highlighting but it's still slow.

It is odd that it is slow. On my 2019 macbook pro

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new more realistic example: time vim -c 'syn off' .txt vim -c 'syn off' .txt 0.41s user 0.20s system 32% cpu 1.848 total

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Here is my first, pre edit, example which is invalid. The file was a zip and my install of vim was not opening as text or binary

% time vim -c 'syn off' vim -c 'syn off' 0.03s user 0.03s system 2% cpu 2.380 total

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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I don't see any way to monetize a free text editor but I see that they're hiring and also hired talented devs like Thorsten Ball already. What's the business model here?

From their FAQ: We envision Zed as a free-to-use editor, supplemented by subscription-based, optional network features, such as: Channels and calls Chat Channel notes We plan to allow offer our collaboration features to open source teams, free of charge. https://zed.dev/faq#how-will-you-make-money

Now see, I'm the opposite. I would like to pay a reasonable fee to drive a silver-and-oaken stake through the heart of the collab features. I will pay real money to just make it all go away. As others have said, I work in an environment with lots of different tools so collab stuff like this is just visual noise, let me turn it all off.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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This makes me want to use Helix, because while I love the idea of a terminal editor, I'm not the kind of person to whittle away a day screwing around with my config files.

Helix has been stalled for a few months, and there are issues that make it frustrating to use at times. For example, :Ex and friends have been relegated to the plugin system (the root cause of the stall, it hasn't been merged). I still prefer it to the config overhead of nvim (as well as the kakoune-style movements!), but the paper cuts have hit a threshold and I've started writing my own text editor (I'd probably us…

Stalled how? There was a release a couple of months ago. There's another on the way. There are regular changes merged in. There's been foundational changes (events) made to enable new features. The plugins are being worked on, and whilst the speed may not be for you, that doesn't mean its stalled?

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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However silly it is, I've always hated the aesthetics of VS Code. I know it's themeable but despite that the overall look and feel just isn't right on MacOS or Linux. That side bar drives me crazy. I find that out-of-the-box Zed is much prettier and feels more native than VS Code. But for a tool that we spend hours using each day, how it looks and makes you feel really matters. I am enjoying experimenting with Zed. I…

The first thing I do on any VS Code fresh install is to switch the sidebar to the right. Pure heresy for many people, I know. But I want my eyes to naturally land on code, not on a file tree.

Its actually pretty obvious advantage if you are often ctrl+b hide sidebar because instead of jarringly moving start of the line you are revealing code without moving it.

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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A few weeks ago I had this giant json text blob to debug. I tried Gedit first, and it just fell over completely. Tried vim next, and it was for some reason extremely slow too, which surprised me. VSCode loaded it nearly immediately and didn't hang when moving around the file. I have my complaints about VSCode, but speed definitely isn't one of them.

I believe VsCode has told me several times that the file i want to open is too big.

It's more of a suggestion/question than a hard limit though, no? "Are you sure you want to open this 4GB file?"

Re: Zed on Linux Is Here

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Man, what kinda of QA do they have that they miss something like this? WSL can be considered the second largest Linux "distro". Of course, zed has always felt like an osx first project with linux/windows being second class citizen.

> Of course, zed has always felt like an osx first project with linux/windows being second class citizen. Unless I'm missing something, it doesn't even run on Windows... https://zed.dev/docs/#download-zed

You can build it yourself for Windows iirc
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