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Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Google Maps, YouTube, on the original iPhone?

But those were standalone apps. This AI capability is integrated throughout the entire OS and Apps. It's now part of the "fabric" of iOS.

The majority of this is local AI with nothing to do with openAI. Only particularly complex requests go to them

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Have to say, I was thoroughly impressed by what Apple showed today with all this Personal AI stuff. And it proves that the real power of consumer AI will be in the hands of the platform owners where you have most of your digital life in already (Apple or Google for messaging, mail, photos, apps; Microsoft for work and/or life). The way Siri can now perform actions based on context from emails and messages like settin…

What do you mean into hands of platform owners? The point of having an Apple device is that you can run stuff on your device. The user is in control, not any platforms.

I think what they're getting at is that the platform owners have power because they can actually leverage the data that users give them to be useful tools to those users.

I would contrast this with the trend over the last year of just adding a chatbot to every app, or Recall being just a spicy History function. It's AI without doing anything useful.

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I wonder what if any Developer support for “AI” — I need a better way to write that — ahem I - will have for accessing the personal data store. I’ve spent the last four years running up at collecting this data about myself, and, it’s hard, real hard to do a good job at it.

I’d love to have an app I write be able to subscribe to this stream.

It feels like a sort of perfect moat for Apple - they could say no on privacy concerns, and lock out an entire class of agent type app competitors at the same time. Well, here’s hoping I can get access to the “YouSDK” :)

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You are deeply disturbed by the idea that some services can be better implemented server-side? Who do you think pressured them, the illuminati?

Here's a shocking suggestion: maybe wait some time before these services could be implemented on-device, and implement them on-device, instead of shipping this half-baked something? Apple seems to be the perfect company to make it happen, they produce both the hardware and the software, tightly integrated with each other. No one else is this good at it.

Here’s a shocking suggestion: if you’re not comfortable using it, don’t use it.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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I remain skeptical until I see it in action. On the one hand, Apple has a good track record with privacy and keeping things on device. On the other, there was too much ambiguity around this announcement. What is the threshold for running something in the cloud? How is your personal model used across devices - does that mean it briefly moves to the cloud? How does its usage change across guest modes? Even the phrase "…

> has a good track record with privacy

They repeated this so many times they've made it true.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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To me, everything about how it's been presented so far says the point of how it's set up is that they don't want to use backends. They want everything to happen on device. Even having ChatGPT for expanded queries is an unfortunate necessity driven by the hardware not being powerful enough yet. How much is run entirely on device so far is unclear, but the sessions later in the day should expand on that.

On device or in an Apple owned DC. It sounds like they have aspirations for their own Apple owned LLM. ChatGPT seems like it's there until they can get something good enough to generally replace it for cases where their in-house solution isn't capable enough yet. They likely continue to invest heavily on big capable LLMs as well as ones that are small enough to run on device (while working on the hardware side to ens…

The benefit of owning the last mile to the customer is that you can choose when you want to replace default Maps, or not.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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Am I only person who's reached their threshold on companies forcing and shoving AI into every layer and corner of our lives? I don't even look at this stuff any more and see the upside to any of it. AI went from, "This is kinda cool and quaint." to "You NEED this in every single aspect of your life, whether you want it or not." AI has become so pervasive and intrusive, I stopped seeing the benefits of any of this.

The new generative AI stuff has been barely implemented in most products, I don't know how you are experiencing it as pervasive and intrusive. Are you sure you're not just cynical from all flood of negative news stories about AI?

this being a news thread about Apple integrating AI into all their operating systems and apps aside... Chrome has started prompting me to use generative AI in text boxes. Twitter (X) has an entire tab for Grok that it keeps giving me popup ads for. Every single productivity suite (Notion, Monday, Jira) are perpetually prompting me to summarize my issue with AI. Github has banner ads for Copilot. It is everywhere.

Re: Apple Intelligence for iPhone, iPad, and Mac

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post #154

Big partnership for OpenAI. Incredible Apple decided to integrate with a third party like this directly into the OS. This feels like something Apple could have executed well by themselves. I was hoping they weren't going to outsource but I suppose the rumors while they were shopping around were true. I think this further confirms that they think these AI services are a commodity that they don't feel a need to compete…

They seem to have kept the OpenAI integration to a minimum, only using it for requests that need large scale processing or for web trivia type of requests.

And apparently via Siri, not as part of their other integrations. So you ask something, Siri suggests ChatGPT, you agree to send the prompt. It's not built into the other ML related capabilities.
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