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Re: Discussion: Job seekers can't find a job and Employers can't find an employees

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Post by pdimitar »

ralphc wrote: post #289
pdimitar wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're basing your entire argument on an arbitrary deadline (six weeks). I am giggling as I am monitoring several job forums and seeing several companies pop up periodically (once a quarter I'd say) looking for the same positions... 2.5 years later. So let's change the example. Is it really worth it to be as picky for 2.5 years? I'd wager they lost money because of that. Any senior dev can learn GWT or anything simil…

And let's say that they found their "dream" candidate that knew GWT. Technologies change and improve over time, can you imagine a place that is still using GWT, or jQuery, or backbone? Whoever they hire is going to have to learn new technologies while working there, otherwise they need to fire all their devs and go back out and hire React devs or whatever is the flavor of the day. Even something as stable as Java has…

It was not about GWT at all. That was exactly my point: passing on a senior just because they don't know $specific_tech that can be learned in 2 weeks is a short-sighted business decision.

Re: Discussion: Job seekers can't find a job and Employers can't find an employees

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Post by s67 »

I have 25+ years leading test teams. I've always been the most technical person my team. I've written at 20 least custom test automation frameworks, in various languages, but my preference is Python or test code.

I was laid off in early 2023; 15 months looking for work. When I've been able to get an interview, if it leads to a tech screen, it's leetcode. It's never test code, or anything remotely about test theory or practice. If I get scheduled for an interview, I always proactively create a custom framework POC for the company's marketing site, to specifically show coding skills around testing; this is ~3 hours of work.

This never impresses them -- actual, working code in a github PR -- and the last two company interview rounds have been: 1. 70 minutes to solve 5 leet challenges (Python, Python, Javascript, Java, SQL) 2. 2 separate screenings, each with 1 leetcode challenge at 30 minutes

Re: Discussion: Job seekers can't find a job and Employers can't find an employees

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Post by makowskid »

Hi, this is exactly the problem we’re trying to solve with https://Careera.AI

Careera is an automated platform for job matching between companies and job seekers, providing end-to-end recruitment automation.

The are NO JOB APPLICATIONS and NO CV FILTERING by the company.

Job seekers only need to register on the platform, and upload their CV, which is then parsed via AI to speed up onboarding. Every few days, the platform sends quizzes/tests to build the user’s psychometric profile.

Companies create richer job postings on the platform.

Based on hundreds of data points, the platform pre-matches both sides automatically and anonymously, guaranteeing a good relative match.

Companies are proposed candidates and can see only basic information, excluding name, race, religion, ethnicity, or physical appearance.

When both sides hit “LIKE,” they can contact each other and proceed with the interview process.

Companies must process up to a maximum of 10 proposed candidates and cannot ghost any candidate. Only then can the platform propose more candidates.

The platform is currently in the pilot stage. We would greatly appreciate community feedback. Thanks!

Re: Discussion: Job seekers can't find a job and Employers can't find an employees

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Post by [deleted] »

SantalBlush wrote: post #334
mbrumlow wrote: post #332

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I want university to produce people ready for the work force. This ultimately means less people will graduate. It’s clearer that the paper that said you were ready for work no longer means that. The fix is universes not worrying about pass fail rates and admission stats and focus on creating classes that produce what they advertised they would produce. It’s so tiring to me people with masters in CS who can’t fizzbuzz…

If you're having trouble finding CS masters grads who can't write a fizzbuzz, your salary band is too low. Full stop. Which pretty much confirms my point. Stop complaining, stop blaming schools, and start paying more.

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Re: Discussion: Job seekers can't find a job and Employers can't find an employees

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Post by [deleted] »

SantalBlush wrote: post #334
mbrumlow wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want university to produce people ready for the work force. This ultimately means less people will graduate. It’s clearer that the paper that said you were ready for work no longer means that. The fix is universes not worrying about pass fail rates and admission stats and focus on creating classes that produce what they advertised they would produce. It’s so tiring to me people with masters in CS who can’t fizzbuzz…

If you're having trouble finding CS masters grads who can't write a fizzbuzz, your salary band is too low. Full stop. Which pretty much confirms my point. Stop complaining, stop blaming schools, and start paying more.

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Re: Discussion: Job seekers can't find a job and Employers can't find an employees

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Post by mbrumlow »

SantalBlush wrote: post #334
mbrumlow wrote: post #332

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want university to produce people ready for the work force. This ultimately means less people will graduate. It’s clearer that the paper that said you were ready for work no longer means that. The fix is universes not worrying about pass fail rates and admission stats and focus on creating classes that produce what they advertised they would produce. It’s so tiring to me people with masters in CS who can’t fizzbuzz…

If you're having trouble finding CS masters grads who can't write a fizzbuzz, your salary band is too low. Full stop. Which pretty much confirms my point. Stop complaining, stop blaming schools, and start paying more.

Full Stop! Your right! That is it!

Re: Discussion: Job seekers can't find a job and Employers can't find an employees

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Post by makowskid »

shagie wrote: post #270
mock-possum wrote: post #260

My big thing is there’s no personal contact possible via the application process anymore. Every form I fill out results in the same response from a ‘no-reply@‘ email address: > Thank you for your interest in COMPANY NAME and for applying to the JOB TITLE in LOCATION. > Having reviewed your application, unfortunately, we won’t be proceeding with your application at this time. Due to the high volume of applications, we…

If you have 100 resumes, and each one wants 15 minutes to talk - that is 3 days of back to back to back phone calls. (Aside: this is a rather soul draining endeavor and means everything else is pushed back a bit... the person who is conducting the calls should have some training / awareness of what is entailed so that they don't accidentally create an HR incident - this pretty much rules out the junior dev and many e…

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Re: Discussion: Job seekers can't find a job and Employers can't find an employees

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Post by makowskid »

yebadem wrote: post #263

I'm surprised how no one mentions an argument focusing on personality. Back in the day, having a qualification proved to some extend a certain level of understanding of someones character. So the companies went along with your degrees as in accomplishments for a judge of character. This is destroyed by the internet and further demolished with AI. Now with the power of AI and internet, current toolset of that an emplo…

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