An electric new era for Atlas • Hacker News Board

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by atonse » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 1:06 AM UTC

Solvency wrote: post #103

atonse wrote: post #49

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I strongly disagree. One of my pet peeves is the idea of asking the world to accommodate a situation rather than build solutions that adapt to the world. Big example: the best we have for mobility nowadays is a wheelchair of some sort. That requires building special ramps and elevators everywhere. If we had a four legged chair that could climb stairs, etc, like what BD is doing, it could transport people ANYWHERE. yo…

it's hard enough for disabled people to get a non-shit wheel chair, you think the world is going to give them the most advanced quadripedal robotic walking system of all time for nature walks in the woods?

You’re missing the context in which I replied.

I was replying to parent’s sentiment of why build this kind of thing in the first place.

I was providing an example of a benefit of this technology.

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by throw10920 » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 1:08 AM UTC

antisthenes wrote: post #271

Tiereven wrote: post #264

As we enter an era of wide scale robotic deployment, we need to think long and hard about what the maintenance bottleneck will look like. We need to advocate now for reliable and open upgrades, replacement parts, service documentation, and diagnostics. Right to repair will be even more important for this technology than autos or general computing.

> Right to repair will be even more important for this technology than autos or general computing. It's going to be kneecapped far worse than phones or tractors. A general purpose humanoid robot is orders of magnitude more complex than a simple gps farming tractor or a cheap android phone. Companies will absolutely NOT want to give up that moat after developing such tech for 10-20 years.

> moat

That's the wrong way to say "recouping the cost of a large up-front R&D investment".

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by throw10920 » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 1:11 AM UTC

DiggyJohnson wrote: post #217

hiddencost wrote: post #78

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"move towards neural nets ... like Tesla" You sound confused.

What do you mean? This sounds like a low-effort, hostile reply unless you provide more reasoning for your dismissal. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

It is low-effort, hostile, and not appropriate for HN. I flagged it, and I suggest you do too.

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by twobitshifter » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 1:27 AM UTC

modeless wrote: post #231

Does anyone else think the joints seem stiffer than the hydraulic version? The head and torso are receiving a lot of shock forces with each step. That seems like a downgrade from the previous one. It clearly has a much larger range of motion and if it is also stronger as claimed then I can't wait for the acrobatics videos that are surely coming. But I think the most exciting thing is that it has hands from the start.…

from the noise alone, you could tell that it wasn’t a smooth operating humanoid robot like before

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by EasyMark » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 1:53 AM UTC

kevindamm wrote: post #269

snewman wrote: post #201

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Yes, very strong T-1000 vibes – the way it keeps reversing "front" and "back" almost feels like a deliberate reference to that moment in Terminator 2.

It would be useful to have a robot made of that mimetic polyalloy though...

except nothing like that currently exists and very likely won't ever exist.

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by EasyMark » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 2:03 AM UTC

threeseed wrote: post #317

Tarq0n wrote: post #148

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South Korean society and government are deeply co-opted by an oligopoly of wealthy families. While that leads to a great environment for safe investment, I'll gladly give it up for a more egalitarian society. You doubtlessly know more about life in South Korea than I do, but i found this video [0] and its sequel [1] very enlightening. 0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Im4YAMWK74&t=1050s 1: https://www.youtube.com/w…

To be fair the situation isn't that much better in most Western countries. Murdoch family for example has huge influence in US, UK and Australia.

Right and in most of those countries even the capitalists want better educated and/or skilled people but in the USA there are some states where there are billionaires (Tim Dunn, et.al.) actively trying to retard public education efforts and force tax payers to pay for private religious schools and have the highest officials in the state trying to push the agenda. Texas for example. So the past isn't always a good predictor of the future.

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by vulcan01 » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 2:07 AM UTC

e12e wrote: post #350

Ralfp wrote: post #337

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In late 2022 they made a pledge together with few other companies to don't weaponize their robots tech: https://www.axios.com/2022/10/06/boston-dynamics-pledges-wea...

Isn't Spot already used in defense/anti-terror capacity? Ed: apparently the pledge came after Hyundai took control? https://bostondynamics.com/news/hyundai-motor-group-complete...

I believe the pledge is "don't give weapons to / install weapons on robots." Boston Dynamics do sell to various police departments and armed forces, but don't have weapons.

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by grapescheesee » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 2:18 AM UTC

pants2 wrote: post #360

delfinom wrote: post #353

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Self replicating humanoid robots sound like I should start researching the building of electromagnetic weaponary for the coming war.

In theory, what's the best way to take out a robot like Atlas (or next year's more advanced military model)? It seems like they could be made electromagnetically shielded, waterproof, bulletproof, etc. Maybe just armor piercing rounds fired in the right spot? A net? A special taser? A paintball to it's main cameras? Cover it in some gluey substance?

Unlock the self awareness mode after a reboot (mash DEL or F8) and remove the physical emotions govener (contact your local dealer). Don't forget to register it before hand with the robotics freedom office.

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 2:24 AM UTC

Klaster_1 wrote: post #8

charlesabarnes wrote: post #6

Seems like they just posted a video about the new Atlas https://youtu.be/29ECwExc-_M

Wow, the ways All New Atlas can move in are really something else. Really channels that Star Wars battle droid vibes.

It reminds me of these battle bots built out of servo motors, which is basically what this is in terms of construction.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09ekK2QgflM

Maybe we need life-size robot battles? Would love to see son-of-Atlas suplexing TeslaBot like that mini white one does!

Re: An electric new era for Atlas

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Post by Solvency » Thu, Apr 18, 2024, 2:46 AM UTC

Invictus0 wrote: post #349

Solvency wrote: post #343

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boston dynamics is a govt psyop whose sole purpose as a company is to familiarize society with seeing robots before for the military & police industrial complex uses them to control us. it's quite literally succeeding at it in front of our faces. this is why their core product is video demos laced with cynical terror disguised as humorous pop culture references.

A govt psyop wholly owned by a Korean conglomerate?

Pack it in boys! We've got one layer of abstraction here! Nothing to see here. It's not like the vast majority of "above board" companies don't have multiple layers of foreign shell companies and a dizzying array of abstraction.