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Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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I'm still very bummed with Apple's strategy in using # of supported external displays as a feature to gate laptops. I had to return a decently spec-ced M3 Macbook PRO 14" because it only supported 1 display (base M3) and pay more for M3 pro even though I don't need the extra horsepower. And now the base M3 Air's support 2 displays? This is wild

I think even worse than that is that they still only put 8 GB RAM in the base and middle options.

I'm pretty sure that's their gatekeeping.

I looked at the price for m3 and if it would have 16gig it would literally be perfect for just 1k but nope 8 more gigs cost you an arm and a leg

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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I'm always a bit irritated when editors still use inch measurements exclusively, when it's only used in 3 countries officially still. Not talking about screen sizes obviously, but I really don't have an intuition for what 'less than half an inch' thickness is and I'm sure there are a _lot_ of people who use English as their interface language outside of the US.

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Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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But you can also pay $400 for a number of acceptable alternatives, and about $600-$700 for a machine with a discrete GPU. It is probably the best laptop in the $1K price range for laptops that don't have a GPU, but that's basically it. The main problem with the non-Apple laptop market is that there is a mind-boggling number of confusing models, SKUs, processor/gpu variants, etc., and wildly variable physical quality…

> But you can also pay $400 for a number of acceptable alternatives, and about $600-$700 for a machine with a discrete GPU. People love to say this without linking to a model. That's because the models in this price range are obviously not in the same weight class as a MacBook. Edit: Weight class and weight-of-laptop are not the same thing. I don't know how to explain the idiom "weight class" so that the more... lite…

> Edit: Weight class and weight-of-laptop are not the same thing. I don't know how to explain the idiom "weight class" so that the more... literal-minded Hacker News commenters will understand what I mean, but let's start there.

Just don't ever use a metaphor on Hacker News. People will always misinterpret it

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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I remain a little disappointed they didn't hold onto the wedge form-factor. The MacBook Air in the most recently form-factor is very thin, very light, but not to me what the definitive aspect of the MBA is, and why it's not a MacBook Pro. Being mildly thinner and supporting only one monitor feels like an intentional design handicap because... well we have to.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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This Laptop has two USB-C/Thunderbolt ports. So how do I connect two external monitors + e.g. a USB Hub to this laptop WITHOUT buying an expensive Thunderbolt Dock??? Are there adapters available?

Is it only this one with HDMI from Apple? https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MUF82AM/A/usb-c-digital-a...

are there others with USB-A with Displayport or USB-C Display connection?

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 14" 14ACN6. Got one at Costco over a year ago for around $700US. Runs Pop_OS! really well. Weight is very much light enough for me. Edit: There is one downside I found. I replaced the 512GB SSD with 1TB and nearly needed stitches because the bottom plate was so sharp. Oh and I just looked it up, it's listed at 3.04lbs

A big factor is how these machines age too, though. 4 years ago the 2020 M1 Macbook Air dropped, and it's still a fantastic computer today. On the other hand, I don't think I would enjoy using a 4 year old Lenovo Ideapad today

A 4 year old Lenovo is an eight core Ryzen with 32gb memory. Battery still lasts a day. I'm not sure there's anything significantly better available yet.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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I'm still very bummed with Apple's strategy in using # of supported external displays as a feature to gate laptops. I had to return a decently spec-ced M3 Macbook PRO 14" because it only supported 1 display (base M3) and pay more for M3 pro even though I don't need the extra horsepower. And now the base M3 Air's support 2 displays? This is wild

I feel like I accidentally discovered a huge hack for this by upgrading to a 49" DQHD monitor. It's the exact same resolution as two 27" 1440p monitors so it's like any Apple silicon chip has always supported dual external displays. And it was a much better overall value compared to buying 2 displays + over-specced macbook.

Do you mind sharing the monitor model? Found the Samsung LC49G97TSSNXDC for $999[1], but also a reddit thread about some issues with it and a 2019 MacBook Pro[2] (which is admittedly Intel rather than Apple silicon-based).

[1] https://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung-odyssey-49-1000r-curved...

[2] https://old.reddit.com/r/ultrawidemasterrace/comments/mb9vnv...

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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post #309

I'm always a bit irritated when editors still use inch measurements exclusively, when it's only used in 3 countries officially still. Not talking about screen sizes obviously, but I really don't have an intuition for what 'less than half an inch' thickness is and I'm sure there are a _lot_ of people who use English as their interface language outside of the US.

Why is # of countries or # of people important? It's the total spending dollars that's important. By using US customary units, you get 25% of the world GDP in one easy-to-do-business-with entity.

Funny how you say total spending and then argue with a percentage but aside from that do you really want to argue that Apple doesn't care about the total spending of, say, India just because they make up a smaller percentage of the world's GDP?

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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This Laptop has two USB-C/Thunderbolt ports. So how do I connect two external monitors + e.g. a USB Hub to this laptop WITHOUT buying an expensive Thunderbolt Dock??? Are there adapters available? Is it only this one with HDMI from Apple? https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MUF82AM/A/usb-c-digital-a... are there others with USB-A with Displayport or USB-C Display connection?

A lot of USB-C monitors offer built-in usb hub support. So you would plug the monitors into the laptop, and the peripherals into the monitors.

Re: New 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with M3 chip

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Seems like it. Which is a huge win in my opinion. To bad the base MacBook Pro M3 14" doesn't have that feature

which version of the MacBook Pro 14" do i need to buy to have this feature?

The base M3, it will gain this feature in a software update.
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