AMD funded a drop-in CUDA implementation built on ROCm: It's now open-source

Post by bavell » Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 4:38 AM UTC

Cu3PO42 wrote: post #122

I'm really rooting for AMD to break the CUDA monopoly. To this end, I genuinely don't know whether a translation layer is a good thing or not. On the upside it makes the hardware much more viable instantly and will boost adoption, on the downside you run the risk that devs will never support ROCm, because you can just use the translation layer. I think this is essentially the same situation as Proton+DXVK for Linux g…

Post by acchow » Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 5:08 AM UTC

kllrnohj wrote: post #302

swozey wrote: post #191

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Is this really a theory? If so my $8 AMD stock from, 2015? is currently worth $176 so they should make more shell companies they're doing great. I guess that might answer my "Why would AMD find that having a CUDA competitor isn't a business case unless they couldn't do it or the cards underperformed significantly."

For some reason AMD's GPU division continues to be run, well, horribly. The CPU division is crushing it, but the GPU division is comically bad. During the great GPU shortage AMD had multiple opportunities to capture chunks of the market and secure market share, increasing the priority for developers to acknowledge and target AMD's GPUs. What did they do instead? Not a goddamn thing, they followed Nvidia's pricing and…

Post by up2isomorphism » Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 5:22 AM UTC

pheatherlite wrote: post #316

tgsovlerkhgsel wrote: post #313

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How is this not priority #1 for them, with NVIDIA stock shooting to the moon because everyone does machine learning using CUDA-centric tools? If AMD could get 90% of the CUDA ML stuff to seamlessly run on AMD hardware, and could provide hardware at a competitive cost-per-performance (which I assume they probably could since NVIDIA must have an insane profit margin on their GPUs), wouldn't that be the opportunity to e…

The only reason our lab bought 20k worth of Nvidia gpu cards rather than amd was the cuda industry standard (might as wellbe). It's kind of mind boggling how much business amd must be losing over this.

Post by pjmlp » Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 5:53 AM UTC

BizarroLand wrote: post #332

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Are they ported though? I would say thanks to the Steam Deck, Proton is at a point where native Linux ports are unnecessary. It's also a much more stable target to develop against than N+1 Linux distros.

Many are specifically ported to work with Linux without a wrapper, especially among indie games and games from smaller studios. Unity, Unreal and Godot all support compiling for Linux either by default or with inexpensive or possibly free add-ons. I'm sure many other game engines do as well, and when you're taking a few hours of work at most to add everyone who owns a steam deck or a steam deck clone as a potential c…

Post by squigz » Tue, Feb 13, 2024, 6:14 AM UTC

throw10920 wrote: post #365

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I know that Lina doesn't like a lot of the attention HN sends her way so it may be better if you don't link her socials here.

I think it would be better to avoid mention of them (or the Asahi project) on HN entirely, for that matter. If they don't want HN to criticize them, then they should expect to not get the free publicity that HN offers. Seems fair enough. Also, between accusing HN of "supporting trans genocide" (which is some mix between "impossible" and "false"), and poisoning links with HN referrer URLs, they don't seem like very go…