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Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by JonathanBeuys »

pmontra wrote: post #296
JonathanBeuys wrote: post #217

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Assuming it is "unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus", what would be the command to start Firefox as the normaluser with that setting?

I didn't test it but probably DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus \ DISPLAY=:1 \ sudo -H -u normaluser \ --preserve-env=DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS,DISPLAY \ firefox I'd add -H to the options of sudo to make it set the home to normaluser's one. I assumed that your DISPLAY is :1, which is what my Debian has set for me. That's another variable that you could read from the environment of Firefox. You migh…

Whe don't you test it? It takes less time than to guess and have a back and forth via HN comments.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by eloisant »

kemotep wrote: post #331
eloisant wrote: post #246

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The way profiles (or tab containers) work in Firefox sucks compared to Chrome honestly. I could never find a way to open in the correct profile from external applications.

You can set up specific domains to open up in specific tab containers. Obviously for sites that you have never visited before this complicates things unless you have the default tab container be your “throwaway” or not personally identifying profile. The experience there isn’t perfect and requires some effort to setup but how is that different than getting certain sites to open in specific chrome profiles automatical…

Yes but that doesn't help for domains that I use for both profiles.

Typically Google, when I click on a Google Doc I need to be able to decide to open it in my personal or pro account.

With Chrome it goes to the last focused window so it will usually match what I'm currently doing, otherwise all I have to do is focus the right Chrome window before going back to the external app and click the link.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by lima »

nickelpro wrote: post #365

It's weird to me that no one on Hacker News has pointed out the MV3 version of uBlock works fine. At least I haven't noticed any difference except for the rare minor annoyance of cosmetic filtering (which gorhill removed for political, not technical reasons) Whatever you feel about the politics surrounding MV2 and webRequest, MV3 is by no means blocking uBlock, or ending adblock on Chrome across the board. That's FUD…

HN has always been an echo chamber :-)

I've been using the MV3 version for months because it does not require permissions. It works just fine.

And in the rare case where I do need cosmetic filtering, I can simply click the extension icon, drag the slider to "more" and grant an individual permission for the site. It's great.

Another benefit is that a permissionless adblocker works in many corporate environments which would otherwise block any extension with far-reaching permissions.

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Post by DanielHB »

Twisell wrote: post #323
frereubu wrote: post #303

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> I just don't understand why people would use Chrome Because lots of people who build websites only test them in Chrome. I use Firefox as my main browser, but there are times when I'm forced to open Chrome to do something (e.g. buy visitor parking permits from my local council) even with uBlock Origin disabled. As a non-technical user, if that happens to you even once, what motivation would there be for you to go ba…

Another way to phrase it: "Because chrome is the new IE, it's prevalence broke the web standards so you have no choice" It's an argument, but not a good one. Don't be evil they said...

this has gotten much better due to the existence of Safari, if a website supports Safari AND Chrome it most likely works fine in Firefox as well

It is very uncommon these days for actively maintained websites to not support Safari/iOS users

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Post by minimaul »

MaKey wrote: post #273
dark-star wrote: post #197

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My guess is that i wasn't marketing. It was because FF was dog-slow back then and Chrome was (still is) blazingly fast

Chrome was being pushed hard via installers of other software, that's how it got onto computers of regular users.

This!

Adobe used to bundle Chrome by default with Acrobat Reader for instance. - this was how a LOT of people got Chrome the first time.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by _Nat_ »

What makes some folks so attached to particular browsers?

Personally, I'm using a mix of Edge, Firefox, and Chrome. While in theory I could just use one of them (which would probably be Firefox), it's kinda like having 3 different super-profiles for a web-browser (where each browser is its own super-profile), so I'm mostly just using all 3 out of laziness.

I don't particularly trust Chrome nor Edge, so I just don't use them for anything important. Not that I'm 100% confident in Firefox, but if I've got to do something important, Firefox is the easy pick. Then I guess I end up favoring Chrome or Edge for everything else, since I don't want to junk up Firefox with nonsense (so Firefox'll remain solid for when it's appropriate). Between Chrome and Edge, I guess I favor Chrome for junk-level tasks since Chrome feels the most separated (being neither used for important stuff like Firefox nor being tied to the OS like Edge).

I get that some folks might have a business-critical app with compatibility-issues limiting their freedom-of-choice when it comes to certain tasks, but outside of such niche cases, what's the big deal?

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Post by JonathanBeuys »

05 wrote: post #291
JonathanBeuys wrote: post #204

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Linux

xdg-open Works for me..

That would open the url in the default browser (Chromium for me) with the current user (root for me).

The task at hand is to open it in firefox with the desktop user.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by sethammons »

mort96 wrote: post #352
eloisant wrote: post #246

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The way profiles (or tab containers) work in Firefox sucks compared to Chrome honestly. I could never find a way to open in the correct profile from external applications.

I find it annoying how I need a separate window for each profile in Chrome, I like that I can have one window and some windows are in the work container and some are not. You do need the (official) containers extension though.

I had to use chrome at work and the different windows for different profiles really pissed me off (like, more than is reasonable). I eventually discovered you can have multiple profiles in the same window, it just wasn't the default.

Re: Choose the browser that best suits your privacy needs

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Post by Dah00n »

_cenw wrote: post #194
bad_user wrote: post #100

I keep seeing Edge mentioned as a worthy alternative, and I just don't get it. First, all Chromium-based browsers will eventually block uBlock Origin for the sole reason that they can't maintain Manifest v2 on their own, and they all rely on Chrome's Web Store anyway. This won't happen immediately because Manifest v2 will probably stick around for longer because of enterprise users, but the writing is on the wall. Th…

People who don't see the problem with Edge must all be domain joined or on Pro for Workstations / Enterprise. Supposedly the browser doesn't annoy "confirmed" business customers as much. I recently switched to the RC Insider ring just to get the EU digital markets update, which lets you uninstall Edge. Because it started doing incredibly creepy stuff. * Keeps asking me every day if I want to keep my new tab extension…

>to get the EU digital markets update, which lets you uninstall Edge.

Again — as a former anti-EU person — I am reminded why I am now pro-EU. While nowhere perfect it is much better than not having an EU and way, way better than the US.

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