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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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I'd have expected a lot of OpenAI employees to join whatever initiative Sam and gdb started next, but the profile of someone who joined OpenAI this past year and a Microsoft employee are...quite different.

It's not gonna be Microsoft employee, it's gonna be a subsidiary like GitHub, LinkedIn, etc. A lot more independence.

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post #288

I don’t quite buy your Cyberpunk utopia where the Megacorp finally rids us of those pesky ethics qualms (or ”shackles“, as you phrased it.) Microsoft can now proceed without the guidance of a council that actually has humanities interests in mind, not only those of Microsoft shareholders. I don’t know whether all that caution will turn out to have been necessary, but I guess we’re just gleefully heading into whatever…

For one, I wish some of that caution could have been there when Facebook was in its OpenAI stage 15 years ago. A lot of people don't seem to realize that this mess is exactly what it looks like to slow down something now that could become something else we will all regret in 10 years.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #8

Anyone else find it strange that startup founders of the magnitude of Sam & Greg would join a gigantic corporation as employees? It sounds very out of line of what you'd expect.

I guess they were fired exactly for this reason: more money, less research and being actually "open". A "non-profit" called "Open"AI hiding GPT-4 behind a paywall with no source code with just a few hints in the papers, surreal.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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[This is not in response to the satya's tweet but the general articles or opinions in social media.] Please keep in mind that the articles you read are PR pieces, last few being from Sam's Camp. msft/sequioa/khosla has no power to remove the board or alter their actions. There is no gain for board by reinstating Sam and resigning themselves. swaying employees who have 900k$ comp is pretty hard. and not giving money t…

Consider that a substantial portion of that $900k comp is locked up in equity that needs a liquidity event to be realized.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #331

This was expected. Who would possibly think Sam would join MS to be a "senior research" or "VP of engineering"? They get to form a company and run a startup within Microsoft with full Microsoft backing. OpenAI is so over.

And by seeing how Satya praise it ``` We remain committed to our partnership with OpenAI and have confidence in our product roadmap ... We look forward to getting to know Emmett Shear and OAI's new leadership team ```

You know OpenAI is now overly done. I'd say it's now in archive.

https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/1726509045803336122

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #254

Can someone help me understand what Sam's actual value is? He doesn't seem to be a particularly important practitioner/researcher re: AI and is "just" a CEO/salesman-evangelist to get funding, which Microsoft doesn't need? Is he particularly apt at leading/managing research teams? OpenAI's slow productization doesn't imply he's a product/idea guy a la Jobs.

It feels more like face saving and to keep balance with investors and stocks etc..

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #331

This was expected. Who would possibly think Sam would join MS to be a "senior research" or "VP of engineering"? They get to form a company and run a startup within Microsoft with full Microsoft backing. OpenAI is so over.

I was expecting MSFT to get a board seat and bring them back tbh

Yeah, the current board has to go if they want to raise money again.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #49

This might turn out to be a lot more stable structure long term: the commercialization of AI under Microsoft's brand, with Microsoft's resources, and the deep research into advanced AI under OpenAI. This could shield the research division of OpenAI from undue pressure from the product side, in a way that it probably couldn't when everything was under one roof.

I find your theory more plausible. Microsoft, Google and Amazon were lagging in AI. You can simply look at their voice assistants for an example. That's why they started investing billions in OpenAI and other think tanks in this space. Now capital turns things around to be as they should (from their perspective) and reacquires control.

Anthropic is probably next in line.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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OpenAI is destined to learn the story of Xerox PARC the hard way. I commend them.

If your goal is to produce a lot of value and you don’t care about others capturing it, then it may actually be a good way to go, especially with the non-profit setup.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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post #141

[This is not in response to the satya's tweet but the general articles or opinions in social media.] Please keep in mind that the articles you read are PR pieces, last few being from Sam's Camp. msft/sequioa/khosla has no power to remove the board or alter their actions. There is no gain for board by reinstating Sam and resigning themselves. swaying employees who have 900k$ comp is pretty hard. and not giving money t…

This is a tweet directly from Satya Nadella. Do you think he's publicly lying in a way that would be disastrous to the company he runs?

(this is satire) Obviously Sam built the AGI that hacked everything in the planet

Even the pixels you see in your devices

Wake up people

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