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Re: The death of a public intellectual

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Post by Angostura » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 2:39 PM UTC

JSavageOne wrote: post #359

Angostura wrote: post #296

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> Nothing you just said disputes any of what Peterson has said I thought it addressed it fairly directly: * gives mediocre-at-best self-help advice * goes around whining about wokenes * saying hateful things I suppose we should add add that he claims to speak authoritatively about subjects well out of the areas of his expertise.

Amazing, you've managed to meaningfully discredit thousands of hours of content and a couple books in a couple flippant sentences /s

You originally said the commenter hadn't discredited anything that Peterson said. Now Peterson may have a substantial body that is sound and doesn't fall into the categories critiqued. I certainly don't suggest that he has never said anything of merit.

Re: The death of a public intellectual

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Post by unixhero » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 6:50 PM UTC

slothtrop wrote: post #259

unixhero wrote: post #39

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Yeah how so?

I disagree with the others insofar as I think the weighty-est things Huberman suggests are very well researched, and he's generally careful to say when research is newer/sparser for certain discoveries but doesn't make a broken-record of himself. For instance: his videos focusing on sleep. When it comes to other optimizations YMMV but aggregate marginal gains would suggest that exploring these may add up. Also these…

I do too

Re: The death of a public intellectual

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Post by robertlagrant » Wed, Nov 01, 2023, 11:33 AM UTC

mcpackieh wrote: post #194

robertlagrant wrote: post #104

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> Peterson has essentially monetized telling Americans what a dystopia Canada is, acting like some sort of reverse Handmaids Tale refugee I think this hyper reductive. You can watch all his lectures, at Harvard and others, online[0]. It's hard to look objectively at his life and not call it "serious intellectual work". [0] https://www.youtube.com/c/JordanPetersonVideos/about

From his description, > "You can watch the incredibly popular lecture series "Personality and Its Transformations", "Maps of Meaning: The Architecture of Belief", as well as his "The Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories" lectures for free." I won't pretend I ever watched more than a few minutes of any of this stuff, but isn't it a bunch of inane rambling about finding deep psychological meaning or unive…

> I won't pretend I ever watched more than a few minutes of any of this stuff

Agreed.

> but isn't it a bunch of inane rambling about finding deep psychological meaning or universal truths in fairy tails?

No, it's not. Some of it is illustrated through fables, but I don't think it's inane rambling, no.

Re: The death of a public intellectual

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Post by Obscurity4340 » Tue, Nov 07, 2023, 4:56 AM UTC

Obscurity4340 wrote: post #363

JSavageOne wrote: post #362

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Anybody can pick a few random quotes out of context and dispute them. Keep in mind I'm not actually defending Peterson's views (I agree with some, disagree with others), I'm defending his status as a public intellectual. My experience and history shows that women definitely tend to be more attracted to men who are competent and powerful. There is nothing misogynist about that statement. That statement does not imply…

Is his status as a public intellectual immutable or irrevokable, ever? Or does his Ph.D + tenure position ahelter him from deserved pushback on his nonsense and grifting in perpetuity? When he starts talking stupid, am I to defer to his "public intellectual" status and not only turn off my brain and logic and common sense and/or suspend judgment forever or would that still be ok and would you respond well to an invit…

Wouda been a good time to throw in an a priori maybe