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Why every microwave sucks these days

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Post by tristan957 »

harel wrote: post #338
tristan957 wrote: post #336

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If people listened to the author of the web page, it would stop an ad-driven web. Because the world continues to use Chromium skins, we are inevitably going to get some technology that ad blockers won't work on any more. See FLoC, Web Bundles, or Web Integrity. How do you all use a browser that comes up with these adversarial technologies?

Say you stopped an ad driven web - what do you think will remain when nobody can afford to run anything at scale anymore? Would you be ok paying to use the web? I know I wouldn't.

What are you referring to by "at scale"? Can you give some examples?

I would also like to understand why you think web has to change. Why can't the ad networks change by not allowing tracking in ads, or make ads bearable to look at? I don't need an ad moving on a web page. Newspapers have gotten this right for centuries. I can look at a newspaper all day and not get frustrated, but I can't do that on the web because I have to worry about content moving on my screen or privacy.

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Post by tristan957 »

harel wrote: post #358
account42 wrote: post #341

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I too do not care about the environment because a litle polltion won't make a difference. And I don't bother with a retirement fund because I make enough money for my needs right now so why care about the future.

These are bad analogies. I can block ads on the net and still use chrome. I can choose whether ads bother me or not. I can choose if I want/agree to be tracked. My choice doesn't hurt anyone. You want to fight the ads - take on the ad networks. Provide an alternative. Without an alternative it's just a cardboard sign with some text.

If you emit CO2, you are hurting everyone else. If you participate in a web browser monoculture, you allow one company to own the web, therefore hurting everyone else. Please don't absolve yourself of the harm you are causing those of us that don't want to be under Google's thumb.

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Post by kbelder »

stvltvs wrote: post #276
toast0 wrote: post #196

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Yeah, my parents have an upside down ceramic pie dish permanently in the microwave which raises the food to be heated up into what seems to be a more favorable area for heating. Before we got that in there, you'd have to do a lot of short bursts and mix / rotate, which is tedious especially when there was about two seconds of off time when starting...

Before they were integrated into the microwave, you could buy third-party turntables.

They were like a child's toy; you would spin it a dozen times counterclockwise, and then it would slowly rotate clockwise for the next several minutes. Obviously, it couldn't be battery-powered.

Thinking about it now, it must have had some kind of plastic spring mechanism. Wish I had busted it open and looked.

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Post by harel »

skeaker wrote: post #369
harel wrote: post #30

As soon as you open the site in Chrome it complains that my browser is stalking me (I know and don't care) and that this site does not work with it. So I closed it. More annoying than my browser's stalking habits is the assumption that one knows best and can decide for others what they should be using. This is the first time I see something like that. Hope it's the last too.

Funny, since this is something that HN recommended websites begin doing after Google began pushing WEI [1]. Your frustration is intended in this case, the theory being that you'll be pestered into switching browsers. Annoying for some but you have to respect it in a way, what with how it's giving Chrome a taste of its own medicine. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36877524 - Quick example from a search.

When you said HN recommended, initially I read "YC & HN admins" recommended, but you meant "some people on HN". Look, I respect activism of this kind. But direct it where it's meaningful. It's not that I found not being able to comfortably read a lukewarm article about microwaves is the end of the world. The title on HN might as well have been about that "chrome blocker" because that was the actual story here. In the IE days people were furious when sites were only "optimised for IE".

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Post by harel »

tristan957 wrote: post #371
harel wrote: post #338

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Say you stopped an ad driven web - what do you think will remain when nobody can afford to run anything at scale anymore? Would you be ok paying to use the web? I know I wouldn't.

What are you referring to by "at scale"? Can you give some examples? I would also like to understand why you think web has to change. Why can't the ad networks change by not allowing tracking in ads, or make ads bearable to look at? I don't need an ad moving on a web page. Newspapers have gotten this right for centuries. I can look at a newspaper all day and not get frustrated, but I can't do that on the web because…

At scale - Facebook, google, OpenAI, Twitter, Instagram, etc.

Regarding ads - Don't get me wrong - I hate obnoxious ads, i dislike moving ads, and noisy ads and colourful ads and ad-sites that farm content from other sites to show ads etc. And I think the more obtrusive they get they just harm themselves in the long run. But, I also appreciate that for most content outlets this is the only way to support themselves (except my last example - that has no excuse).

And regarding tracking - personally if I am to see ads, i rather them be relevant at least, and not random. When asked if I want to be tracked or see random ads, i select the former. purely personal preference.

And also: pihole. Seriously. I turn it on and the ads disappear. The net is clean and faster on all devices in the house.

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Post by xk_id »

aembleton wrote: post #274
xk_id wrote: post #260

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As usual, the industrial-grade stuff is the only stuff that is actually worth having; while the whole entire consumer market is by and large a rip-off and a scam. Not just for microwaves. Also food ingredients, cosmetics, drugs, electronics. The problem is that business-to-business suppliers are harder to find and contact, they rarely engage with private individuals and often they are even restricted by the governmen…

When I search Google Shopping for 'Panasonic NE-1258R' then I find plenty of companies willing to sell it to me.

discovery is still an issue for this particular example.

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Post by antod »

Baeocystin wrote: post #179
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

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I just want a microwave with an analog dial for time and a switch for low, med, high. They can keep the computer.

Decades ago, my college microwave was an ~800 watt unit that had a large, analog dial, and an actual bell that dinged once (and only once) when it was done. That's it, no other settings. Zero displays, other than the pointer on the dial as it clicked down. I still miss it.

That describes the first one my parents got in the early 80s - except I seem to remember a power slider as well. Best microwave UI ever.

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Post by tzs »

peteforde wrote: post #137
tzs wrote: post #79

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I've also got one, although mine is the larger NN-SN946W model. It has had one odd behavior that has me quite puzzled. I was regularly having for breakfast a microwaved frozen breakfast sandwich and a couple hash browns cooked in a toaster. The hash browns took 10 minutes, and the breakfast sandwich 1 minute. I'd program the microwave for a 9 minute timer stage, followed by a 1 minute cooking stage, and then start th…

First: kudos for RTFM and learning that you could batch operations. Honestly, you might have inspired me to do it, too. Isn't it funny that a microwave with a local wifi network and the ability to run JS/Lua/whatever scripts would be exponentially more useful than "smart" features? I agree, what you are describing is thoroughly bizarre. When you say that it wouldn't start, do you mean that it wouldn't let you hit the…

It wouldn't do anything when I pressed the start button. It didn't even do the normal beep that normally occurs to acknowledge button pressed.

There's no one else in the house (that I know of...).

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