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Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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post #232

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This third party browser extension looks like it hides UI contents whereas with Kagi your preferences are used in what is actually returned from the search engine and in what order. I don't think these things are all that similar.

Kagi used Google behind. If results are the same, what is the difference for the end user?

Google is one of the sources for Kagi's results, but not the only one. The results are not the same.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Hope you enjoy linking all your search queries to your credit card, really. This attitude is unbelievable to me.

And pray tell, how does one acquire this Monero that you're defending with religious fervor? By linking your credit card to some "currency" exchange that may or may not already be under investigation for fraud?

Even if it were a process as invasive and painful as getting a bank account, it would remain the only technology that enables users to get a search account privately (since Kagi says cash is not scalable for them). Given the level of snark and off-topicness, I presume you don't actually expect me to answer the question with dozens of different methods.

This is a company that claims over and over that they are privacy-respecting, but are running a service that unnecessarily collects your real ID via credit card, otherwise you can't do searches. After seeing what happened to Google, I am shocked that people like you are so dismissive toward me for trying to hold them to account and caring about this issue. Yes I react with religious fervor at this issue - privacy. This is an age where companies are handing over information to convict people for seeking abortions even in the US.

If you have another solution then please share it.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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Pinterest was certainly the first site I blocked. I've never understood the hate for w3schools. No, it's not MDN, but it's not offensively bad either, and it's been a helpful reference from time to time. If w3schools comes up first in a search, I trust that it probably has the answer to whatever very simple question I must have asked, unlike something like Pinterest, which will just be spam no matter what.

> hate for w3schools w3 usually just gives me the answer i need to get shit done asap. mdn is a technical reference. useful. but irritating when you just need a quick explanation. w3schools = :/ mdn = :O

Use your fav llm for that

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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post #38

Ok wow, seeing these lists might have just made a customer out of me. I’ve been vaguely aware of Kagi and know the general premise but this made it real.

Similarly, I had no idea about this feature, but I now know I want it... I think I just need it to be cheaper, maybe $5 unlimited (or enough for me, which I think is certainly higher than 300, probably higher than 1000, at least without behaviour change) and I'd be in I assume it's a bit chicken and egg - marginal costs of new customers/extra searches is relatively low, it's the crawling & development/SRE that's expe…

I'm at the $10/mo level, and am totally happy to keep paying. I rely on search throughout the day for my job, and for my personal interests. $10/mo for an ad-free tunable search that provides good results is a completely worth it. And, I'm more than happy to vote with my money to support the web that I want to exist.

Otoh (for contrast) I run adblock and sponsorblock on youtube, and if they start blocking traffic from people like me I'm going to cut back my YT viewership significantly (and maybe try harder to look for stuff on nebula instead, which I never browse). While I do get some educational value from YT, it's limited, and I guess I just fundamentally object to the ad-first business model.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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post #16

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It's incredibly annoying to be searching for a thing, and get a result from Pinterest that's just a bookmark of that thing. As far as I know, this is more a failure of Google's inexplicable algorithm than Pinterest doing anything specifically bad.

Pinterest could simply tell robots to 'noindex,follow' the page to help search engines understand there is no utility in it appearing for a search. But agree, perhaps it shouldn't rank first anyway. Guess it depends on whether it's UGC entirely or whether the CMS could note these kind of pages. Again, shouldn't be hard if it's just a simple link as the main content of the page.

Why would Pinterest do that? They’ve conquered image search SEO, and I expect most sites on the internet want to play as greedily as possible.

Google are the ones who should be looking at the situation and asking if this is the state they really want.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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And pray tell, how does one acquire this Monero that you're defending with religious fervor? By linking your credit card to some "currency" exchange that may or may not already be under investigation for fraud?

Even if it were a process as invasive and painful as getting a bank account, it would remain the only technology that enables users to get a search account privately (since Kagi says cash is not scalable for them). Given the level of snark and off-topicness, I presume you don't actually expect me to answer the question with dozens of different methods. This is a company that claims over and over that they are privacy…

> Given the level of snark and off-topicness, I presume you don't actually expect me to answer the question with dozens of different methods.

Dozens of different methods to ... buy crypto? You can keep them.

I would trust something like Kagi more than any crypto exchange to keep my privacy.

You are right that it may not be a good idea to have all your searches tied to your identity, but mixing crypto into that won't help.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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I realize this is probably not the solution you want, but there is an official iOS Safari extension that will intercept all address bar searches and route them to Kagi. I don’t remember how much it costs, and it doesn’t seem to work super well with private browsing, but it’s better than nothing and works well for what it is. Ymmv https://apps.apple.com/us/app/kagi-search-for-safari/id16077...

It actually works very well with private browsing. You just need to have the extension enabled for private browsing (in iOS 17 that's a separate switch) and tap on "get your session link" once in the extension menu in Safari. That way it knows about your subscription, even in private tabs.

Yup, I just never took the time to set it up properly.

Re: Most promoted and blocked domains among Kagi Search users

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post #54

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Yes, they had it for a few years a decade ago. If you think through the feature, it's not at all obvious that it's a good idea for an established search engine targeting the general public [0]. But even then it might be a great idea for a search engine that's trying to establish an initial niche. It doesn't even matter whether the idea actually works well in practice: if 100k people think that manual curation of sear…

> that's trying to establish an initial niche Which suggests to me that while kagi might be good now, if it gets popular it may undergo enshittification in an effort to monetise its popularity.

This is honestly probably the most tiresome argument that constantly pops up in every HN thread.

Imagine if one of your friends come back from a holiday trip and tells you how fantastic the place they visited was. Is your response "Well, maybe that place ain't going to be so nice in a few years!"?

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