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Not directly related, but it's so cool that three different people from Florianópolis have commented! I don't think I'd ever meet someone from that part of Brazil in my normal life. That's a little bit of internet magic
Now four.
Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
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Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#372Some additions: Stores also cannot use their full façade for advertising. Branding colors and details are OK, but logos cannot be too large (don't know the exact rule). The law is picky. Some stores cheat by having a glass façade, and using LEDs inside that glass. Like this: https://imgur.com/a/CLdUD1C Since this law was adopted, there's been an increase in full building graffiti, which is not banned. Now 10 years la…
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#373Anytime I hear about outdoor advertising I think of a quote I saw in the book Civilized to Death. A long time ago man saw Times Square and sat in silence. A few people asked him what he thought. He said this would be beautiful if I couldn't read.
The Times square was the first place I visited in the US, Imagine a bright TV on four walls in a room playing unskippable YouTube ads. That was my feeling, I have no idea why people go crazy about watching ads. To each their own.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
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Full-building graphite are one of the hallmarks of downtown Belo Horizonte. I remember as a kid seeing some of those impressive, surrealistic images. They made a big impression on me, I wish I knew who the artist(s) was/were.
Downtown BH and around Savassi iirc have very good murals. I like seeing them instead of the pixo tags we see at the top of the buildings. Honestly, I wouldn't mind pixo that much if it was colorful, like someone posted a picture from the Paris metro. It's still illegal, but at least it's not just a dick swinging contest seeing who's going higher, it looks nicer.
Indeed. Most of the markings are low-effort territory marking. At least they aren't peeing on walls.
Maybe if we added arts to the basic school curriculum some aesthetic sensitivity could be imparted in them so they'd feel pressed to better consider what they are going to paint.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
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Meanwhile, I find NYS's inundation of billboards downright depressing. It's just ugly, even in places that ought to be beautiful upstate. When I cross the border into Vermont, which bans ads on roads except for simple business signage, the difference is tangible.
NY City is an interesting case where the billboards almost don't even matter because it's already an unnatural high-stimulus environment. As for the rest of the state, I agree.
I really can't stay in NYC for long. It just makes me angry all the time.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
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> A good analogy of this may be browsing the web with ad blockers--pages with ads are busier, noisier, and load more slowly; yes, if the page content is bland, removing the ads will make it blander. A great example. If there were no ads, the web, and this site, wouldn't exist. Moderation in general is key. This site for example has a single advert which is the top banner, as well as job postings. Subtle and allows th…
> If there were no ads, the web, and this site, wouldn't exist. This is quite untrue. There was a useful web long before advertisers got their grubby hooks in it.
I'd say it'd be a huge plus in terms of real utility.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#377This is awesome. Discovering this kind of post is exactly why I read HN and not other "news" sources. Agree with others that the "empty" billboard frames look off. But much better than attention-seeking adverts. Wish more cities would pass this kind of law. Billboards are such an eyesore especially the pointless political ads we are forced to see.
> and not other "news" sources I mean I really enjoyed this piece too, but it's not really news. HN really shouldn't be relied upon as a singular news source. There's plenty of things you should know that aren't the intellect candy that HN promotes
If you know of a similar text-based (or low image count) site like HN that has high quality news and no fluff/click-bait please share. Thanks.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#378Interesting from someone that leaves in SP for 2 years and just spend about 40 days in Berlin and 21 in NY last year, this doesn’t seem to resonate as such a big difference. Berlin almost doesn’t have any billboards and NY I didn’t saw it bothered me, at least in Brooklyn. Curious on how SP was in the past. Unfortunately the city has way worst problems then billboards.
I've been in São Paulo for a week, and the city feels depressing. The architecture is horrible, boring, and not well-maintained, especially when compared to the architecture of old European cities where at least the buildings are aesthetically pleasing. The excessive advertising only worsens the situation. I've also visited Berlin, and unfortunately, it too felt quite dull.
When I left there was a push for more cycle lanes everywhere, with large avenues closing off lanes for car traffic to increase space for bicycles. It was a great time.
And the restaurants continue to be superb.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
#379Love the idea, but the execution can be better. The photos show empty billboard frames, remnants of old ads against walls, etc., making things look dilapidated but not in an Anthens-ancient-ruin kind of way.
As the city adapted to the new rules, the frames were torn down, you could see the architecture behind them (sometimes veritable architectural treasures worth of preservation), and murals covered lots of the empty space in monumental art installations. Where the space is empty, you sometimes see art (and political protests) being projected on the walls.
Re: Sao Paulo: A city with no outdoor advertisements (2013)
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I'm from Florianópolis and everyone I know hates that stupid billboard - it goes against the natural vibe of the city. In person it's an eye sore from kilometers away.
Not directly related, but it's so cool that three different people from Florianópolis have commented! I don't think I'd ever meet someone from that part of Brazil in my normal life. That's a little bit of internet magic
Now, seriousness, there is no such thing as "looking Brazilian". We come in all sizes and colors.