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The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by slaymaker1907 »

Maxion wrote: post #21
themaninthedark wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds to me like there are Top Mods who want to continue the boycott, with others who don't and that Reddit is looking at giving the other mods a path forward. One of the things I have noticed is that the boycott is not from the users but from the mods of the community. Even if the community had a vote, if you want to boycott fine but they are forcing others to go along with with them. So either they are not the…

Huh? All subreddits that have ran votes, the community has been in majority favor of closing.

I guess r/SaltLakeCity and r/NewOrleans don’t exist.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by bruiseralmighty »

Wasn't the 'protest' of overpriced or non-existent public APIs for popular websites really the additional server cost due to endless web scraping? The whole concept of a general strike of subreddits seems like an antiquated way try and strong arm Reddit into complying.

If all these subreddit had instead migrated their users to a hastily built alternate frontend that web scrapped reddit.com, the entire mother site could have been taken down quite effectively.

There's plenty of methods for routing around ip-address blacklisting or region blocking.

Just as there's no law against web scrapping there's no law protecting the labor rights of the moderators who work for free. Overall it just strikes me as a weaker axis of attack.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by gigglesupstairs »

pbae wrote: post #328

You should read these threads if you want to get an idea of how the normie users think about the whole lockout: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/14b11kh/were_just_here... https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/14al426/rapple_black...

I didn’t know r/nfl represents the whole of reddit. Mind = blown.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by fluidcruft »

ghayes wrote: post #323
marcod wrote: post #293

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm -> <- this close to deleting all the posts in my 15 year old reddit account. It's not just moderators they are losing.

Per another thread, it appears Reddit is rapidly undeleting such posts.

Sounds likely illegal if true.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by pseudalopex »

hackinthebochs wrote: post #362
pseudalopex wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Prove it.

That's not how it works. If you want to claim some poll as evidence of user sentiment, you have to prove that it is representative.

Do you claim all polls are brigaded until disproven? Or those you don't like?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by slaymaker1907 »

spicymapotofu wrote: post #117
ahahahahah wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is (1) not true and (2) meaningless given most of those polls were brigaded by a small set of vocal whiny users voting in subreddits they aren't even involved in (3) even given both if those, I doubt you can find a poll for a large subreddit that shows even 10% of users supporting a blackout.

So, can you show how most polls were brigaded?

r/freemagic users who were banned from r/magicTCG talked about voting in the r/magicTCG poll. Apparently, mods of r/tennis posted in a Discord asking people to come help and vote to support the blackout as well. A lot of polls were mentioned in r/ModCoord which biases strongly in favor of the blackout. There’s much more incentive to brigade on the blackout side since users who don’t care about the subs in question lose nothing by those subs going private.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by colinsane »

root_axis wrote: post #92
pixelpoet wrote: post #5

I really hope a decent Reddit replacement shows up soon; my impression is that HN is mostly webdevs, so surely some of y'all are on it?

There are dozens of alternatives to reddit, the issue is that the vast majority of reddit users don't care at all about this drama. Reddit is not going anywhere.

i’m less certain than i was. the two people in my life who actively use reddit have both told me “it’s over”. one of them joined lemmy.blahaj.zone after r/196 reformed over there: he told me that it’s the community he was most active in and i got the impression that unless the Lemmy one folds he’s more or less done with Reddit — even though it means he’s interacting with the other communities via different mediums than he was before (chat instead of forums).

as someone who stopped using Reddit a year ago, i get it. topical communities no longer exist in just one place. if you’re interested in 3d printing, say, you can join a reddit, join a chat group (in Discord, Telegram, Matrix — whatever app of choice), join a FB group or explore the topic on TikTok, find a 3d-printing themed Mastodon instance, …: and each one of these hosts adjacent communities. Reddit is no longer the only “community of communities” on the internet. if you zoom out, it’s been losing that moat for a while. users can get by decently well these days by choosing from 5+ apps they might already have installed when exploring a topical community. reddit killing their share of that app space doesn’t really help them.

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by slaymaker1907 »

revscat wrote: post #50

I don't see a way that Huffman can follow through on his threat. According to Reddark [1] at the time of this writing there are still 4752 subs that are dark. I understand that powermods exist, but were Huffman to follow through on his threat he would have to come up with many hundreds of willing moderators, on a rather short timeframe. Frankly, I don't see this happening, at least not without significant pain. Not t…

It’s actually not that hard since they have processes in place for this sort of thing. They have u/ModCodeOfConduct make a post in the affected community (I assume they reopen the sub and restrict it except for that post). https://www.reddit.com/r/oldbabies/comments/143cszv/new_mode...

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by mrtranscendence »

bruiseralmighty wrote: post #372

Wasn't the 'protest' of overpriced or non-existent public APIs for popular websites really the additional server cost due to endless web scraping? The whole concept of a general strike of subreddits seems like an antiquated way try and strong arm Reddit into complying. If all these subreddit had instead migrated their users to a hastily built alternate frontend that web scrapped reddit.com, the entire mother site cou…

Aren't those methods potentially expensive? And if you did make a hastily-built frontend backed by scraping, couldn't Reddit continually break it without much effort?

Re: The note Reddit sent to moderators threatening them if they don’t reopen

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Post by slaymaker1907 »

nkuttler wrote: post #189
rvense wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the one hand, I think this a stupid decision for Reddit, that it's disrespectful and very bad for the internet. On the other hand, if it's what they're going to do, then that's how it is. You can't really expect them to just leave a namespace like, say, /r/politics in the hands of someone who openly says they aren't going to use it. So of course they're going to remove mods who stick to a blackout, what else could…

> in the hands of someone who openly says they aren't going to use it Closing it IS using it, in a very public and visible way. They just don't like HOW it is used by the people who built it.

If you want to change the license for FOSS software like the Linux kernel, you need to get approval from _every_ contributor. To me, this means for a sub to shutdown as they have they would need permission from _every_ subscriber.
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