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Re: Netflix loses 1M users in Spain over password policing

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Post by themitigating »

acuozzo wrote: post #342
ModernMech wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely don't understand this sentiment in 2023. Maybe in 2003 it was reasonable, but if you have the money, just spend it to buy the content you want. I get that there's a lot of "crap" that you don't want to see, but I appreciate some of that, and I'm sure you appreciate some of what I call "crap". I don't see how you go from that situation to justifying not paying for it. There's a price for the content and it…

> Can you offer a full throated defense of why you feel it's okay to pirate media in 2023 -- NOT OP -- In the general case, no, but consider the cases of: 1. "Altered media" e.g. (1) Star Wars, (2) THX 1138. 2. "Remixed media" e.g. (1) Terminator 2 not having its theatrical CDS mix, (2) Earthquake not having its SENSURROUND mix 3. "Omitted media" e.g. (1) Halloween not having its original mono soundtrack, (2) The Exo…

Why would it be ok in these cases?

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Post by dymk »

dumpsterdiver wrote: post #167
throwawaynf38 wrote: post #62

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I wish one of the streaming services would give a "no major loose ends" guarantee. If a show really needs a cliffhanger the show should budget for an extra episode to air if the next season is cancelled. If they don't want to do that, just end the season finale without a cliffhanger. If Netflix had this guarantee, I would watch a lot more series. (I'm still a bit upset that HBO cancelled "Beforeigners" that had a maj…

Well you have to keep in mind that these productions are basically discrete companies themselves. Providing such a guarantee would be akin to guaranteeing that a multitude of small businesses will not fail... which just isn't really possible.

Except that’s not the case at all, all of these shows are greenlit and bankrolled by Netflix, who makes the choice whether or not to continue with it.

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Post by mynameisvlad »

geodel wrote: post #339
ModernMech wrote: post #308

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I genuinely don't understand this sentiment in 2023. Maybe in 2003 it was reasonable, but if you have the money, just spend it to buy the content you want. I get that there's a lot of "crap" that you don't want to see, but I appreciate some of that, and I'm sure you appreciate some of what I call "crap". I don't see how you go from that situation to justifying not paying for it. There's a price for the content and it…

Simplest answer is because one can . It is much safer to grab any digital content than physical goods. If it were easier like this to grab food from stores and restaurants, grab homes of other people, they would do that too. Its not even hypothetical, in many parts of the world this all happens very commonly.

> Simplest answer is because one can

Sure.

> If it were easier like this to grab food from stores and restaurants, grab homes of other people, they would do that too.

You are implying that everyone pirating content would do these things if the chance of getting caught was low. I would posit that some people who pirate would, but it's a stretch to say that the entire group would.

Taking your simplest answer: just because one can does not mean one would.

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Post by babypuncher »

neals wrote: post #359
Jenk wrote: post #79

Netflix have really dissapointed me. I've been a subscriber since before streaming, and have even been content paying the subscription fee during the "breaks" of not using their service for up to months at a time because I so badly want(ed) them to succeed. I also understood the difficult situation they were facing when the producers of content were makkng ridiculous demands on their distribution, or worse, just pull…

Disappointment can only come from your own expectations. Good doesn't last. I like to have a mindset of using these kind of things while they work for me, until they don't, then leave and not look back. Don't get attached to commercial endeavours.

I think some people's expectations of Netflix were downright unrealistic.

When they started streaming, the platform was paying pennies to license shows that were already in syndication. Programs that had already made their money in first runs on network TV and cable.

As streaming became the de facto distribution method for new content, of course the cost of licensing that content ewas going to go up. Streaming licensing fees are no longer just gravy to the studios, they are their primary source of income.

The idea that Netflix could somehow afford to bankroll the entire entertainment industry on $15/mo subscriptions is ridiculous. There were three possible outcomes:

1. Netflix becomes the new cable and charges $100+/mo

2. The output of the entertainment industry shrinks until it is sustainable on $15/mo subscriptions

3. Competitors start popping up and fighting for market share

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Post by themitigating »

duxup wrote: post #283
Jenk wrote: post #79

Netflix have really dissapointed me. I've been a subscriber since before streaming, and have even been content paying the subscription fee during the "breaks" of not using their service for up to months at a time because I so badly want(ed) them to succeed. I also understood the difficult situation they were facing when the producers of content were makkng ridiculous demands on their distribution, or worse, just pull…

> trash telly It's not just Netflix. Disney+ has a bunch of National Geographic infotainment ... minus the info type shows. HBO is going to end up with Discovery Channel ... stuff. I want some way of telling them "I don't want to wade through crap..."

I'm not sure what the huge problem of wading through things you don't like. I don't like 90% of what Spotify has on it, so what? I just don't click it.

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Post by jjulius »

doubled112 wrote: post #317
ModernMech wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I genuinely don't understand this sentiment in 2023. Maybe in 2003 it was reasonable, but if you have the money, just spend it to buy the content you want. I get that there's a lot of "crap" that you don't want to see, but I appreciate some of that, and I'm sure you appreciate some of what I call "crap". I don't see how you go from that situation to justifying not paying for it. There's a price for the content and it…

I don't pirate because I just can't be bothered. It's all too much work for a short temporary experience, but I do remember the promises. Streaming was going to "save us" from the big cable companies. No ads, just pay that small subscription fee and watch what you want when you want it. Now there are a dozen subscription fees, I'm getting ads anyway, and I'm not getting content I want to pay money for. Some are even…

>I don't pirate because I just can't be bothered. It's all too much work for a short temporary experience, but I do remember the promises.

This is the opposite of my experience. It took next-to-no effort, maybe an hour or two one time, to set up my Synology NAS box with Plex, Sonarr and Radarr. The result isn't something temporary, it's a fully-working system that obtains all of the shows and movies I want to watch and drops them onto Plex almost immediately.

All I have to do is fire up Plex and the latest episodes of everything are right there, often within an hour of them airing on the east coast. I'm on the west coast, so this sometimes means I get to check them out before they air here.

The result is a carefully curated library that's far more tailored to my tastes than any algorithm has offered me on any service.

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Post by jackson1442 »

deltree7 wrote: post #272
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #265

Okay, I can share a DVD with my friends or neighbours, but I can't share my account? How does this make any sense?

You can share the password to all 8 Billion people on earth, but not the DVD. Geez

netflix still has stream limits based on your pricing plan, so even if you share the password with 8 billion people only 1-4 can use it at a time

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Post by toyg »

themitigating wrote: post #371
acuozzo wrote: post #342

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> Can you offer a full throated defense of why you feel it's okay to pirate media in 2023 -- NOT OP -- In the general case, no, but consider the cases of: 1. "Altered media" e.g. (1) Star Wars, (2) THX 1138. 2. "Remixed media" e.g. (1) Terminator 2 not having its theatrical CDS mix, (2) Earthquake not having its SENSURROUND mix 3. "Omitted media" e.g. (1) Halloween not having its original mono soundtrack, (2) The Exo…

Why would it be ok in these cases?

For the same reason removing party figures from pictures with Stalin was Not OK. Historical preservation is important, if we care about truth.

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Post by Miraste »

passion__desire wrote: post #362
whinenot wrote: post #348

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“I wonder if, say, a bonobo throwing shit at a whiteboard full of titles as a method of deciding what projects to make would have more or less success than all of these other ‘deciders’ who think they know what people want or don’t want.”[0] [0] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/netflixs-...

Why is Netflix not following short high quality 1-3 min videos model which is popular with young crowd? They already have Fast laughs tab which mimics that. Youtube / Creative studios could pitch 1-3 min video ideas which Netflix could greenlight and provide just bare minimum capital to produce. If the final film is good, Netflix could buy the film and release on their platform. Current Trends which are in favour of…

The pitch/studio model does not work for short content, and it never will. It's too slow-moving and corporate. The videos that succeed in this format are zeitgeist, flash-in-the-pan trends that are faster to produce and more dynamic than even the laziest reality show. The production value doesn't really matter--if anything it's a downside past a point.

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Post by highwaylights »

conradfr wrote: post #347
lockhouse wrote: post #202

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Mythic Quest is hilarious as well.

First season is OK. Same for Ted Lasso.

You can't please everybody.

Tried with Mythic Quest for two seasons and just couldn't stick with it.

Ted Lasso OTOH I'll watch as soon as a new episode pops up.

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