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Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by 7speter »

e63f67dd-065b wrote: post #109
idiotsecant wrote: post #2

There were no doubt quite a few nail makers pre-industrial revolution that took pride in making consistent, quality nails. That work was utterly and completely obliterated by the industrial revolution. There may be a few remaining nail makers, producing nails with an extremely niche design, but not many. So goes those jobs our lifetime as well

I think a better analogy is that pre-photography there were many portrait drawers who took pride in drawing good portraits for their clients. Then photography came, and the entire industry died a sudden and miserable death. Portraits still get drawn, but not many, and certainly not for the sake of preserving what somebody looks like.

There were a lot more opportunities available when photography took over from portrait drawing than Amazon fulfillment centers

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Post by code_witch_sam »

kodah wrote: post #116
rafaelero wrote: post #112

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> AI won't take a thought workers job. I don't understand how you can hold this position considering not only where we are but also the rate of progress in AI. It has been taking thought workers job and it will increasingly do so in the future until the surplus cognitive workers offer is just so minimal that it's not worth to automate it.

What jobs have been totally replaced thus far?

paralegals seem like they're very much at risk

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Post by prawn »

iamphilrae wrote: post #312

The rise of website builders like Wix, Squarespace, and Shopify has drastically changed the web design and development industry. As a co-founder and lead developer of a small design/development team, I loved my job and was passionate about creating beautiful and functional websites. However, as more and more clients turned to these DIY platforms, I found it increasingly difficult to justify our higher prices. While o…

It's not just that the budgets are harder to justify; it's also that prospective clients consider themselves to be experts. Having your judgement and expertise consistently overruled is disheartening and you often end up just following instructions, sapping any joy from the (diminishing and cheaper) role.

I started my web business 25 years ago. 5ish years ago I started photographing and filming travel content, primarily with a drone. More fun, more interesting, better feedback, etc. When building my own web projects though, I still love it.

Re: I lost everything that made me love my job through Midjourney

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Post by 7speter »

odood wrote: post #233
kmeisthax wrote: post #162

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I don't think you actually need copyrighted data to train AI to compete with artists. The argument over copyright is interesting but kind of a sideshow. We already know that copyright protection is not a prerequisite for creativity - as it currently stands copyright only protects the rich. The real reason why AI is going to kill DA/NG/SF/GH/etc is because of spam. Let's say, for every piece a 100% human artist can do…

I believe you are spot on. We are already seeing the same result of LLMs, with sci-fi magazines (temporarily) no longer accepting submissions and self-publication platforms such as Amazon's being flooded with auto-generated crap. Hustle culture is part of it, but only one part of what I believe will be a negative outcome for society. As AI systems display inherent bias, and it is possible to train for that bias (e.g.…

I’ve been shuddering to think what this will do to search engines for the last few weeks

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Post by ChatGTP »

anonyfox wrote: post #252
peyton wrote: post #224

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You’re taking a central planner’s view of a decentralized system. You can’t say “here’s a problem; let’s just make it go away.” We are going to print so much money. I don’t see how bumping up capital gains taxes are going to change anything. People will plow extra help into speculative bubbles. Casino thesis.

How about striding for one of the core societal values that make many advanced democraties (including the European nordics) so much better/happier than the US? It’s called Equality. Insert strong progressive taxes, especially on wealth, and use it to fund a strong public sector, so _everyone_ has as access to basic goods and services for free, like education/health/transport/… . I think you vastly underestimate how m…

I can’t describe how much better Europe, specifically Netherlands felt due to the social safety nets provided, and do not tell me that The Dutch aren’t hard working people, because they are.

People are so much more relaxed there. 99% of the concern about AI is because we’re living in a cut throat capitalistic society, if we knew that AI didn’t mean starving or losing our homes, we’d be way more relaxed about it, and imo we’d take out time a bit more and think about safety.

It’s the American race to the bottom attitude which is IMO no longer compatible with a highly automated world.

To start with, if the economy breaks, AI breaks. I saw Microsoft is winging because other search engines are stealing ChatGPT responses, get used to it M$, you own nothing.

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Post by MonkeyClub »

Mistletoe wrote: post #359
savef wrote: post #349

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https://openai-openai-detector.hf.space/ Using this tool on the comment yields a 77.6% fake score. To give (pretty limited) contrast, a response from ChatGPT gives 99.9% fake, and another comment from this thread gives 0.1% fake. I assume that means the comment text was GPT-assisted, with some moderate editing from a human.

This is fascinating. I can’t imagine why someone would go to the trouble to do all that for a comment.

The irony of using a LLM to write a text that complains of the pervasiveness of automated tooling for web design is hard to miss.

But perhaps it’s just that the author has internalized copywriting formulas to a degree that their text appears machine generated?

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Post by cageface »

kmeisthax wrote: post #162
462436347 wrote: post #113

These AI systems will sound the death knell for the creative culture of openness and sharing that emerged during the web 1.0 era with the Creative Commons and OSI-approved licenses and sites like DeviantArt, NewGrounds, and SourceForge, and which still exists today, albeit in a less idealistic form. Once people realize that by putting something, even just a blog post, out for public consumption, especially if done so…

I don't think you actually need copyrighted data to train AI to compete with artists. The argument over copyright is interesting but kind of a sideshow. We already know that copyright protection is not a prerequisite for creativity - as it currently stands copyright only protects the rich. The real reason why AI is going to kill DA/NG/SF/GH/etc is because of spam. Let's say, for every piece a 100% human artist can do…

I think it's fair to say that what this current generation of AI enables is cheaply generating a limitless amount of content of not great but acceptable quality.

And I think you're exactly right that this is going to make it extremely difficult for the great stuff out there to rise to the surface. It's going to be suffocated.

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Post by finikytou »

roenxi wrote: post #308
danjac wrote: post #294

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Um...Python, C++, Linux, Erlang, mobile phones (Nokia), Spotify, HTML... Having worked for both European and US companies, I would say that a) innovation is mutual (we learn from each other) and talent/mediocrity are pretty much evenly distributed. The US has a more "dynamic" economy in some sense - for example the VC ecosystem is far better funded - but is detrimental in others (Byzantine health care system deters w…

And yet if we take a snapshot literally right now: Guido van Rossum - Microsoft Distinguished Engineer Bjarne Stroustrup - professor of Computer Science at Columbia University (City of New York) Linus Torvalds - Nationality American/US since 2010 (should I write GNU/American/US? Someone educate me). Erlang - I don't know anything about Erlang so I've got nothing to say. Nokia - brutally ejected from the market by the…

this is right. but its mostly the proof that when you have the highest military spending in the western world you suddenly get things moving your way.

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Post by luckylion »

spoiler wrote: post #301
luckylion wrote: post #287

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You can replace "Startup culture" with "Modernity" and it reads like many conservatives' feelings about progressive culture. I don't think anyone has ever cared about that, and I don't see why that should be changed because it now affects different people.

I know people like to politicise things since it usually creates a simple sense of unity and to gives people a sense of moral superiority. Simple is good. We humans like simple. If we didn't go and simplify things we don't deal with every day our already complicated lives would become too difficult to juggle. Their political compass is generally irrelevant. And there's always people who don't like SOME type of change…

> Conservatives think trans people are crimes against God

You're mistaking christian fundamentalists for conservatives. Conservatives are saying that changing your name doesn't mean you now get to compete in women's sports.

My point was: "Progress is always good, conservatives need to go" has been touted by the same people for decades, and suddenly they want to change the tune when it affects them. It's predictable and should be ignored.

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Post by eega »

figassis wrote: post #356
have_faith wrote: post #348

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I’ve noticed a large amount of responses from chatgpt start the second/third paragraph with “however, “ or a similar adverb. It will always strive to provide a “balanced” view, even on heavily one sided subjects.

I use however a lot

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