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Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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I’m happy to answer questions that everyone has about what we announced! It may be a little while until I’m able to jump back on though.

Is there any progress being made with some of the nagging issues that impact the 12th gen intel laptops when using Linux?

Specifically poor battery life (especially during standby when using the USB-A module) and not being able to use the brightness keys unless you disable the sensor?

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Quick summary for those couldn't watch the livestream/load the website. - New Framework laptops are available using Intel 13th Gen and AMD 7040 series. - New 61Wh battery, new matte display option & a Cooler Master mainboard case for $39. - New 16 inch Framework laptop. Allows you to have a number pad or not, up to you and customizable. If I understood the livestream correctly, there are upgradable dedicated GPUs tha…

It would be nice if we could get non-multiplexed edit keys in the unused space. That is the biggest failing of modern laptops. Massive horizontal real estate and they're packing keys in like it's 1995.

Also height of keys. I don't understand the rush towards thinner and thinner that killed the more reasonably higher-keys keyboards.I don't need a 1mm laptop, I need a laptop I can comfortably type in.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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My concern is more about business than technical factors. The NRE for such a module is going to be significant so the addressable market needs to be pretty big to justify it. Third-party modules could also get killed off by first-party ones that come later.

Third-party modules could also get killed off by first-party ones I think it is pretty clear that Framework intends to allow you to buy the most barebones laptop you can. I mean they let you buy 0 of the little cartridge modules, I assume they won't force people to buy one of these PCIex8 modules.

I mean if some company is selling, say, a Radeon 7600 module and then Framework comes out with their own "official" 7600 module then the third-party company is toast.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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Does it mean I can finally get a high end laptop without a discrete gpu?

Not really. The 7040 series is good, but its not dGPU class like an M1/M2 Max. I think AMD has been scared to make one because OEMs won't want it.

I'm curious, why wouldn't OEMs want that?

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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I hope these guys hang in there for the long haul. Because right now it seems to be for enthusiasts since there is only US keyboard and expected shipping i Q3. I'm happy with my current laptop but at some point I'm going to need a new one so it feels great that there are so many amazing options out there. I just hope that at some point when I need that new laptop I'll be able to order one within a few weeks and my la…

They already shipped 2 generations of mainboards and more or less everything is really fine. They have good support + upgradability (former Thinkpad user, took Framework with 32RAM, but in the process realized that I need 64 -> not a problem at all), had 0 problems with drivers on Windows 11(but had some on Linux Mint). As about keyboard: just buy transparent stickers with your language, no need to wait for them to prepare engraved keyboards with "all layouts".

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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"We’ve partnered with Cooler Master to create an awesome new way to re-use your Framework Laptop Mainboards: a transparent, small form factor case. This will be available this Spring for $39 USD." This is the way. More vendors should do that. A huge load of obsolete but perfectly working laptop mainboards could be repurposed to other uses. Need a small system to set up a service on a LAN but don't want to feed scalpe…

A fanless case would be real nice, and seems theoretically doable.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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for the 16":

- I would love an option to have upwards firing speakers where flex/numpad space goes instead (one on each side).

- please improve the bass in the speakers. according to notebookcheck's review, framework speakers have poor/near 0 bass output.

- please offer a 4k screen option on the 16". 1440p-ish screens with DPI scaling hackery is no fun and often leads to blurry UIs.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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i don't play videogames and i don't do ai/ml, video editing or whatever. i spend most of my time in firefox and in terminals. i do use virtual machines quite a lot to test stuff around, so high cores count and high memory would be a plus for me. but an nvidia gpu is a deal breaker for me. I just don't want it. I don't need it, i don't use it, it just makes the whole thing less usable. and it draws a lot power that i'…

You can usually disable it completely in the BIOS, and it won't be drawing power if it isn't doing anything. I can get wanting to not pay extra, but realistically supporting an extra custom hardware configuration probably costs more than they would save on the part.

The issue is that on some machines, the video-out ports go through the dGPU. Does that still work if the card is disabled in the BIOS?

The old unibody MacBook Pro comes to mind as an example of this.

Re: Framework announces AMD, new Intel gen, 16“ laptop and more

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You can usually disable it completely in the BIOS, and it won't be drawing power if it isn't doing anything. I can get wanting to not pay extra, but realistically supporting an extra custom hardware configuration probably costs more than they would save on the part.

The issue is that on some machines, the video-out ports go through the dGPU. Does that still work if the card is disabled in the BIOS? The old unibody MacBook Pro comes to mind as an example of this.

> The issue is that on some machines, the video-out ports go through the dGPU. Does that still work if the card is disabled in the BIOS?

Traditionally yes; the machine is designed to only run the dGPU under heavy load, not all the time, the BIOS setting just disables doing the thing that you did in the "heavy load" condition. I guess there might be machines it wouldn't work on but I've never known any.

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