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Re: Negativity drives online news consumption

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About a year ago, I stopped consuming news cold turkey (save technology and movie news [the former work-necessary and the latter a personal vice]). I took the extra step of banning Twitter and Memeorandum at the router level, so that I couldn't revert easily. I didn't read a single political news story in the ensuing six months. Some of the happiest months of my life. These days I will read the section headlines on M…

Wholeheartedly agree.

While not a news site, Reddit has many large subreddits that repost news from other sites. They frequently make it to the front page.

Banishing every single one of them off my front page definitely makes scrolling through it less headache-inducing.

Re: Negativity drives online news consumption

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My problem with the hyped up stuff, ChatGPT in particular, is that AI actually does not exist. The practitioners of the area of course have a vested interest to argue until the end of days that ACTUALLY AI does equal ML/DL and stuff but I am like "I see no Skynet so get off my back, we have no AI and that's that". :D But, I guess in 5 years we could argue whether certain progresses are indeed attributed to ChatGPT or…

If you don't know how your program works, in the sense that you don't know how it arrived at the answer it gave you, IMHO that's as good a reason as any to call it "AI." The days of understanding our own code are rapidly coming to an end. As developers, we now have the same problem that the mathematical community has had to deal with for some time, as proofs become complex enough to demand large chunks of peoples' ca…

> The days of understanding our own code are rapidly coming to an end.

That's one possible development of events, yes. The other one is inventing DSLs on top of popular languages so we're spared tons of boilerplate; but then we'll need experts on the actual underlying languages (say C++, Rust, Lua, Erlang or anything with a good VM and/or statically strongly typed and compiled to native code) when sh1t hits the fan, which... actually can work just fine.

Re: Negativity drives online news consumption

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

My problem with the hyped up stuff, ChatGPT in particular, is that AI actually does not exist. The practitioners of the area of course have a vested interest to argue until the end of days that ACTUALLY AI does equal ML/DL and stuff but I am like "I see no Skynet so get off my back, we have no AI and that's that". :D But, I guess in 5 years we could argue whether certain progresses are indeed attributed to ChatGPT or…

This is why I prefer the term "weak AI". Weak AI is specifically trained to solve tasks whereas strong AI can teach itself to solve new tasks. Whether humans are able to create strong AI is a philosophical question: While some argue that's not possible (can we be Gods?), others argue that this is the next logical evolutionary step. Let's see if we can at least mimic strong AI when we let LLMs connect to external syst…

Well comments like yours are the ones truly deserving discussion on the topic, just so you know my opinion. > This is why I prefer the term "weak AI". Weak AI is specifically trained to solve tasks whereas strong AI can teach itself to solve new tasks.

Yes, we can call it a spectrum, though I'd think it's more like a multi-dimensional space. Wouldn't contest your definition though, it's as valid as all the others really.

And yeah I agree/think that the ultimate general AI is the one that can teach itself new tasks, utilize past experience even if the patterns don't match perfectly, and have some sort of sentience. And let's not forget that it must have actual goals and motivation (otherwise it'll just conclude that the best course of action is to not expend any effort and just put itself in an infinite idle loop).

> Whether humans are able to create strong AI is a philosophical question: While some argue that's not possible (can we be Gods?), others argue that this is the next logical evolutionary step.

IMO people romanticize these topics too much. The true AI will be "born" as a hyper-optimizing recursive machine (and collection of algorithms) and it will eventually get limited by the physical reality it inhabits so it'll self-balance quite fine. It's strange how much spiritual value people put into these things, though I somewhat understand; that'll be the second truly intelligent and sentient "life form" that we will know beside ourselves so some metaphysical hand-waving seems unavoidable and maybe even desirable (in terms of moral correction mechanism, maybe).

> Let's see if we can at least mimic strong AI when we let LLMs connect to external systems (internet, money, more energy, etc) and specifically allow themselves to fine-tune or train new NNs in general.

I have no doubt we'll eventually get there but my feeling is that the current "AI" area is in a local maxima and it won't crawl out of it easily.

Re: Negativity drives online news consumption

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post #312

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Are you implying PBS does not have a commitment to a "rigorous journalistic mission"? It seems quite disingenuous to lump PBS and NPR as "corporate media" in the same light as corporate media entities like Fox News, CNN, et al.

Two different issues, right? Reasonable people can disagree with her PBS and NPR are corporate media. But I am very comfortable critiquing the consistently low quality of NPR journalism. That doesn't mean that they're in the same league with the worst of cable news. However, some of the dynamics are similar: * Journalists interviewing other journalists; * Stories with no balance from opposing-view sources; and * Fact…

Since we are speaking of reasonable people, most reasonable people would define "corporate media" as for-profit entities either privately owned or with shareholders and which rely primarily on advertising to turn a profit. Nothing in that definition defines PBS or NPR as "essentially corporate media". What you are probably angling at is corporate underwriting -- in which case I can only direct you to read their statements of editorial standards and independence found on their websites. Now I suppose you will have to take their word here...but if not, then it's just an endless rabbit-hole of debate.

Now I won't say PBS or NPR are above criticism -- and as the kids say, "there's a lot to unpack here", but let's be honest, is NPR's journalism really low-quality? Or is it more likely you have a bit of grievance with NPR because you feel they do not favor your own particular political bias? Since we are internet strangers and have little context to go on, I can only assume the latter is the most likely.

Re: Negativity drives online news consumption

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post #145

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There is a lot of negativity on your site.

Can you give some examples? Elaborate? It highlights what’s wrong with the for-profit news industry.

https://rational.app/category/rational-app-blog/

Are there more recent blog posts or is this all?

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