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BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Re: BBC offices in India raided by tax officials amid Modi documentary fallout

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Post by justin66 »

miroljub wrote: post #95
mihaaly wrote: post #81

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Apparently it struck too close to home. Unleashing tax officials on an organization painting a negative picture (well, not, Modi and accoplice paint it, the BBC only presents it) is a failed attempt of masquerading an authoritarian government overstepping their limits of governance. If they were honest and not coward they would simply tell: 'Shouldn't uncover our dirty laundry, get out of here or will get hurt!' They…

> Unleashing tax officials on an organization painting a negative picture (well, not, Modi i and accoplice paint it, the BBC only presents it) is a failed attempt of masquerading an authoritarian government overstepping their limits of governance. Isn't that what every government do? Remember that Al Capone went to jail because of tax issues, the government couldn't prove anything he was accused to. If you look at Ge…

Al Capone was not a "political enemy" of the state. He wasn't prosecuted "just because the government didn't like him." He was a mass-murdering crime boss.

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Post by MobiusHorizons »

chongli wrote: post #308
MobiusHorizons wrote: post #284

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The ux you are describing is a lot worse than what people get with vlc or mplayer. For example, you can open videos from the cli, which means there is no file chooser involved. Also if you have a subtitle file (.srt) with the same name as the video you opened, the subtitles will automatically be added. Both of these are things people want as part of a versatile video player. The level of lockdown you were describing…

The level of lockdown you were describing is what we have on mobile platforms (which incidentally still have lots of malware). Generally speaking, people want more flexibility out of general purpose computers. I expected this response. I think it's a false equivalence. We don't need to have a proprietary locked-down operating system like iOS in order to give the user full control over the capabilities an application…

Granularity is usually the problem here. It is very difficult to fully specify the full set of things you expect a program to be able to do. Even if you could, it is not usually something an end-user will want to do, due to the verbosity involved. Permissions are also time / sequence dependent. If you have something that can specify the user's expectations fully, it will be very verbose due to the inherent complexity, so the system will either be unused, default to overly broad permissions lists, or rely on trusting various pre-baked recipes that others have made. At that point I'm not sure how much you have gained for the average user, and it seems you lose some very real usability in the process.

Curious to hear how you would go about solving this problem. It seems that there is just a lot of inherent complexity here and I can't see any way to avoid that complexity without preventing the system from being useful.

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Post by krisoft »

pessimizer wrote: post #270
krisoft wrote: post #50

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> Germany normal people get raided by a SWAT Team if they write "[Politician X] is a penis" on Twitter Did the BBC publish anything like that? Do the German police raid you if you write “[Politician X] is corrupt”? Don’t get me wrong I prefer to live in a world where anyone can debase themselves by throwing insults at anyone, but I don’t see the paralels with the BBC raid.

Do you know the answers to these two questions, or do you think that stating them without answers will make readers assume the answers are both obvious and supportive of the case you're making? > Don’t get me wrong You haven't said anything to be wrong about.

> or do you think that stating them without answers will make readers assume the answers are both obvious and supportive of the case you're making?

Yes? There is no allegation that the BBC called anyone a penis. I don’t have proof that i can cite because how do you proove a negative?

I can prove that there are media who called a German politican corrupt.[1] I cannot prove that they haven’t raided them, all I can say is that if they did we haven’t heard about it.

> You haven't said anything to be wrong about.

And yet you understood me, didn’t you?

1: totally random article calling one german politican corrupt https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-conservative-politic...

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Post by thaumasiotes »

wkat4242 wrote: post #128
thaumasiotes wrote: post #42

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Barbra Streisand faces an unclear tradeoff between publicizing the pictures of her home that already exist and encouraging the future taking of unwanted photographs of her home. Modi has much, much, much more reason to fear that tolerating one scandal-raising documentary will lead to further scandal-raising documentaries, and much less reason to believe that ignoring the problem he already has will make it go away. I…

The Streisand effect isn't about a 1:1 comparison of the two cases. It's just about calling attention to something few people would have noticed by being really heavy-handed in trying to take it down.

Is a BBC documentary about one of the world's most prominent politicians "something few people would have noticed"?

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Post by bovermyer »

gorilla0 wrote: post #350
jack_riminton wrote: post #76

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Yes, I think it's related to the waining political and economic power of the West and buoyed by Putin, Xi Jinping etc getting away with whatever they want

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You're aware that threats of violence, even vague ones, are against the terms of use of this community, right?

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Post by SanjayMehta »

iamshs wrote: post #154
SanjayMehta wrote: post #140

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Curious to know why you think the BBC should be exempt. The head of the BBC is in hot water for arranging a loan for the then British PM, Boris Johnson.

What post-colonial narrative does BBC spew? If you see BBC regional languages programs, you will see that it platforms RSS-BJP's Hindu Nationalistic rhetoric to a far greater degree.

What are you talking about?

I'm asking why you think the BBC should be exempt from scrutiny like any other organisation.

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Post by travem »

dustedcodes wrote: post #162
FooBarWidget wrote: post #152

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I'm Chinese. I'm not commenting on Russia but please keep China out of "trivially easy to prove that the West is better for its own citizens". Chinese citizen have been found to be far more satisfied with their government and their future prospects than for example the US. This "propaganda"-sounding fact is even something found by western institutions such as Harvard, York University and Democracy Perception Index! E…

Exactly. I am a White European male who grew up in Europe, but I was lucky to travel to many countries across the world and I spent many months in China because I found it very interesting to experience this country myself and make my own opinion and I couldn't agree with you more. Honestly, of course China has many problems, and in many ways China will always have very unique problems which no other country will eve…

> which comes as a result of having to find solutions to the world's largest population which nobody else has to deal with

The population of China was about 1.412 billion, quite similar to the population of India at 1.408 billion so not really an accurate statement that nobody else has issues of population scale to deal with.

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Post by wkat4242 »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #374
wkat4242 wrote: post #128

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The Streisand effect isn't about a 1:1 comparison of the two cases. It's just about calling attention to something few people would have noticed by being really heavy-handed in trying to take it down.

Is a BBC documentary about one of the world's most prominent politicians "something few people would have noticed"?

Yeah, I'd never heard of it until it was blocked on YouTube.

It's totally on the map now.

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Post by thaumasiotes »

wkat4242 wrote: post #378
thaumasiotes wrote: post #374

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Is a BBC documentary about one of the world's most prominent politicians "something few people would have noticed"?

Yeah, I'd never heard of it until it was blocked on YouTube. It's totally on the map now.

This makes as much sense as the infamous perspective "Nixon can't be president; nobody I know voted for him".

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thaumasiotes wrote: post #374
wkat4242 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Streisand effect isn't about a 1:1 comparison of the two cases. It's just about calling attention to something few people would have noticed by being really heavy-handed in trying to take it down.

Is a BBC documentary about one of the world's most prominent politicians "something few people would have noticed"?

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