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Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by anticensor »

withinboredom wrote: post #218
whamlastxmas wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The web will transition strongly to verified identities, like we have with SSL certs. Along with filtering out people who use AI to post under a verified identity and get caught, It’s the only way to help ensure you’re reading actual human content.

Sorry, you can’t comment because your certificate was revoked when you died. You didn’t die? —— We will pay you 100 bucks to withhold filing your partners death certificate for one week and providing their certificates to us.

That is how legally admissible e-signature schemes work. When the certificate holder dies or the certificate expires, it cannot any more be used to sign further documents.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by SergeAx »

> The regular web is going to get worse

Author implies that web = Google (or search engines in general). But web is not search, and Google doesn't own it, although it seems so. There are other methods of content discovery on the web, and we are at the beginning of exploring them.

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Post by cyborgx7 »

Gigachad wrote: post #360
cyborgx7 wrote: post #353

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When I heard you could pay for the twitter checkmark, I naively assumed they would use that money to actually verify the identity of the people they gave the checkmark to and twitter was being positioned as an authority on identity verification on the internet. I think that space is ripe for the taking, and twitter was in a good spot for it, before they devalued their checkmarks into a meaningless status symbol

They have changed it up a bit, there is a new checkmark that means "company official page", another one for "notable person" for politicians and journalists, and the blue checkmark which now just means paid for twitter.

The damage has been done. Maybe it's salvageable but I think the perception of the twitter checkmark by the general public has diminished a lot very quickly. Specially by people who pay less close attention to it, and don't necessarily take note of the intricacies of the color coding. Not saying it's unfixable, but that kind of public perception is hard to build and easy to lose.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by jerryzh »

munificent wrote: post #237
brookst wrote: post #2

Not a super well thought out article. Example: lots of speculative complaints that ChatGPT will lead to an explosion of low quality and biased editorial material, without a single mention of what that problem looks like today (hint: it was already a huge problem before ChatGPT). Ditto with the “ChatGPT gave me wrong info for a query” complaint. Well, how does that compare to traditional search? I’m willing to believe…

> without a single mention of what that problem looks like today (hint: it was already a huge problem before ChatGPT). I see this counter-argument all the time and it makes no sense to me. Yes, the web is already filled with SEO trash. How is that an argument that ChatGPT won't be bad? It's a force multiplier for garbage. The pre-existence of garbage does not at all invalidate the observation that producing more garb…

because most garbage now are all ready produced by script. chatgpt will actually improve them

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Post by isthisthingon99 »

altdataseller wrote: post #225
isthisthingon99 wrote: post #179

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If you did not buy Tesla at the absolute bottom in 2000-whatever, could you still have been a multi-millionaire? So why do you need to "be first"?

You are comparing 2 different things. Buying a stock is instant. Starting a startup takes years and incumbents already have the same advantage as you. Also, you can sell a stock whenever - liquidity is easy. You can't just throw your hands up and give up a startup that easily, especially if you take funding.

Do you really go through life thinking of reasons why you shouldn't do a thing?

How about "if X did it, I can too." Which way would you prefer to live?

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by isthisthingon99 »

JohnFen wrote: post #194
isthisthingon99 wrote: post #178

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No, stop being old. Age is no indication of wisdom.

Age is no guarantee of wisdom, but it certainly is an indicator. In any case, I'm quite sure that I don't understand the point you're making here. You just listed a bunch of things that some people (both young and old) think and say about this tech. What do you mean by "being old" here? What is it, concretely, that you want people to stop doing?

You are right, I am equating age with being inflexible and as an old man myself, I have to fight to retain my flexibility in all respects.

So, replace "old" with "inflexible" and you get the gist.

In general, "old" people are inflexible, but we professionals are lucky that we don't have to be in a field that is always expanding.

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Post by altdataseller »

isthisthingon99 wrote: post #375
altdataseller wrote: post #225

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You are comparing 2 different things. Buying a stock is instant. Starting a startup takes years and incumbents already have the same advantage as you. Also, you can sell a stock whenever - liquidity is easy. You can't just throw your hands up and give up a startup that easily, especially if you take funding.

Do you really go through life thinking of reasons why you shouldn't do a thing? How about "if X did it, I can too." Which way would you prefer to live?

Neither? You think of the pros and cons and take it from there.

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Post by ElevenLathe »

panagathon wrote: post #352
munificent wrote: post #347

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The system for finding a needle in a sprinkling of hay is the same as finding a needle in a mountain-sized haystack but I would sure as hell prefer to be given the former task over the latter.

This analogy does not work because we search a hay stack with our eyes, but we search for information with far more selective tools. You are comparing apples and oranges.

The smart way to find a needle in a haystack is to burn the haystack and pass the ashes in front of a magnet. I'm not sure what this analogy means for AI-generated SEO spam though.

Re: Chat GPT is the birth of the real Web 3.0, and it's not going to be fun

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Post by isthisthingon99 »

altdataseller wrote: post #377
isthisthingon99 wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you really go through life thinking of reasons why you shouldn't do a thing? How about "if X did it, I can too." Which way would you prefer to live?

Neither? You think of the pros and cons and take it from there.

I guess given that you don't want to play the game, I should have known.
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