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Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by FeepingCreature »

OrvalWintermute wrote: post #364
FeepingCreature wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cite?

https://news.trust.org/item/20210713132522-as8qh https://www.wsj.com/articles/dangerous-push-to-give-boosters...

Fair enough! Important table is https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2109730 , showing a 5x rise above general population background.

I wonder how this compares to unvaccinated/once-vaccinated COVID health risk though. To be clear about the numbers: we're talking about one death. The second booster would have to be remarkably worthless to not be worth it.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by goto11 »

cb14 wrote: post #350
dang wrote: post #318

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Yikes, that is not somewhat misleading, that is extremely misleading (assuming your comment is accurate—I haven't dug through the article). I've edited the title now. Submitted title was "Denmark no longer offering Covid vaccinations to healthy adults under 50". That title was highly editorialized, which breaks the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html : " Please use the original title, un…

I don’t think the original title was misleading. It says on the page: Who will be offered vaccination against covid-19? People aged 50 years and over will be offered vaccination. People aged under 50 who are at a higher risk of becoming severely ill from covid-19 will also be offered vaccination against covid-19. It doesn’t say people under 50 who have had 2 or fewer shots. The comment you responded to seems to be a…

You are correct that vaccines are no longer offered for kids under 18, except if they have certain illnesses or conditions.

Vaccines including first booster is still offered and recommended for everyone above 18.

Second booster (i.e. fourth jab) only offered to people above 50.

Source: https://www.sst.dk/da/corona/Vaccination

Google translate: https://www-sst-dk.translate.goog/da/corona/Vaccination?_x_t...

Quote:

> 10. Do you still recommend that one take the 1st, 2nd and 3rd shots against covid-19 if one has not yet been vaccinated?

> The Danish Health Authority continues to recommend that persons who have not been vaccinated be vaccinated with the 1st and 2nd shots. This also applies even if they are younger than 50, as there may be a certain risk of serious illness if you are not vaccinated.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by BrainVirus »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #352
BrainVirus wrote: post #283

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This flavor of argument-by-insinuation is getting really, really old. Dismissing people or statement because they sound vaguely similar to some foreign source is in itself an obvious propaganda technique that uses exactly the same mentality as the dumbest conspiracy theories out there.

No. The poster said: > I would not be surprised if there is an effort by some states to discredit the vaccine on English speaking forums. Their claim was that adversaries are spreading vaccine disinformation. This is backed up by evidence. The only claim being made is that adversaries are doing this.

>Their claim was that adversaries are spreading vaccine disinformation. This is backed up by evidence.

Their implied claim was that the comment is relevant to the current discussion. That's insinuation.

BTW, did you notice that the very first reference in your reputable report was to NYT, which says very similar things and in turn cites declassified intelligence. Government citing NYT citing government. Even ignoring its dubious quality, the report is dated August 2020, which predates all the Covid vaccines and vaccine-related policies.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by goto11 »

purpleblue wrote: post #366
goto11 wrote: post #130

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This is just wrong. Danish health authorities still offer and recommend COVID vaccines (two doses) for everybody, and an additional booster shot for everybody above 18. It is only the second booster shot which is only offered to people above 50. See https://www.sst.dk/da/corona/Vaccination point 10

You are 100% wrong. This is the same article I myself pointed to. It says they are offering vaccination only to 50 and older or below 50 with health issues.

It is not the same page.

Look carefully at point 10.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by purpleblue »

inferiorhuman wrote: post #158
purpleblue wrote: post #104

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Monica Gandhi who is a well known epidimeologist at UCSF and the furthest from an anti-vaxxer has said publicly she will not vax her kids with the COVID vaccine because there's no proof that it's needed for healthy children. No, she fucking didn't. Even the Daily Mail debunks your lies. Monica Gandhi, for all her faults, vaccinated her children. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10448853/Top-doctor... Both Gan…

I stand corrected. I got her not getting boosters for her boys as her not getting them vaccinated.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by dang »

goto11 wrote: post #369
dang wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yikes, that is not somewhat misleading, that is extremely misleading (assuming your comment is accurate—I haven't dug through the article). I've edited the title now. Submitted title was "Denmark no longer offering Covid vaccinations to healthy adults under 50". That title was highly editorialized, which breaks the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html : " Please use the original title, un…

The title is still slightly misleading (sorry!). "Denmark no longer offering second Covid booster shot..." suggest that Denmark have at one point offered the second booster to below-50 and have now stopped. This is not the case. Until now, the second booster have only been offered to a smaller group of very old or very vulnerable individuals. Now Denmark is rolling out larger scale vaccinations, offering the second b…

Ok, s/no longer/not/ above.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by tremon »

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #116
rossdavidh wrote: post #10

Bit by bit, it is becoming the new influenza. Not saying we're there yet, but that's clearly where we're headed. Now, influenza kills lots of people; in 2018 over 60,000 people were killed by influenza in the USA alone. But we don't have border closing or "show your papers" or all the rest for influenza, and we're not going to.

> Bit by bit, it is becoming the new influenza. Not saying we're there yet, but that's clearly where we're headed. Unless long COVID turns out to be a real and serious thing...

Long Covid already is a real thing, it just was known under different names: chronic fatigue syndrome, myalgic encephalomyelitis, chronic fatigue immune dysfunction syndrome, or systemic exertion intolerance disease.

The only difference is that Covid caused the number of viral infections to skyrocket, and with that, we see a corresponding jump in the occurrence of post-viral autoimmune disregulation, so now there's more effort being spent on finding out what's really going on.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by rossdavidh »

nikolay wrote: post #123
rossdavidh wrote: post #10

Bit by bit, it is becoming the new influenza. Not saying we're there yet, but that's clearly where we're headed. Now, influenza kills lots of people; in 2018 over 60,000 people were killed by influenza in the USA alone. But we don't have border closing or "show your papers" or all the rest for influenza, and we're not going to.

Even with the "low" death numbers right now (averaging between 400 and 500 people a day), it is still times worse than the worst flu epidemic in recent decades! Nevertheless, they will not be that low in the months from October to March, so this would be 4-5 times the worst flu with an epidemic "under control"! However, what if the virus reinvents the high mortality of SARS or MERS combined with being the second most…

Well, it will never be "over". This is how it is now.

It's not like it was ever ok that the flu killed tens of thousands of people every year in the US alone. It's just not a thing that is going to be going away, so the tradeoff of temporarily staying home or wearing masks or etc. is different than if you think it will be gone in a few months.

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Post by space_fountain »

uwagar wrote: post #270
space_fountain wrote: post #212

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Hey, that’s not how vaccines actually work. I think you’ve had fragments of the truth presented in a way to try to make you believe things that aren’t true. Vaccines aren’t a platform that can be triggered to do different things. It does use RNA which is cool because it allows for more rapid changes. The vaccine will mostly work with a wide variety of RNA payloads with the only difference being the exact antibodies i…

u are just reinforcing my understanding. so payloads, triggering and 'specific' products are all real. surely 'bugs' in this sequence are inevitable too with maybe devastating consequences for which no one is liable. who is to say the boosters are not updates that sneak in backdoors with additional 'features'? + these vaccines are peddled by for profit companies that refuse to share IP and emergency approved by govt…

Did you get flu updates in the past? What about yearly physicals? Obviously I’m not going to convince you, but I would like to invite you to wonder what the difference is. RNA tech is potentially scary, but the idea that vaccines are secretly doing something else is a bit silly. For one thing the number of people who can “decompile” the vaccine is pretty large. I believe there have been some research papers on it even and beyond that biology is pretty limited. You’d need a lot more than is in the vaccine to do anything more than your run of the mill virus does to you dozens of times a year and honestly a lot less than some because it can’t modify your dna, it can’t save itself anywhere.

Re: Denmark not offering second Covid booster shot to healthy adults under 50

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Post by space_fountain »

nullish_signal wrote: post #278
space_fountain wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, that’s not how vaccines actually work. I think you’ve had fragments of the truth presented in a way to try to make you believe things that aren’t true. Vaccines aren’t a platform that can be triggered to do different things. It does use RNA which is cool because it allows for more rapid changes. The vaccine will mostly work with a wide variety of RNA payloads with the only difference being the exact antibodies i…

That's not how CLASSICAL vaccines work They changed the definition of "vaccine" to include the new mRNA technology

Hum, it pretty much is how classic attenuated vaccines worked, except here we are directly controlling the rna that gets stuck in your cells rather than trying to evolve the virus a bit and then stick it in you
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