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Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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I have a friend who works as a category manager at Amazon global and she gets frequent offers from shady people for "mutually beneficial partnership".

Even the suspensions don't have alot of affect for these shady sellers.

I have worked with a company that provides listing services on Amazon in the past. The owner once casually mentioned how they help these companies get out of suspensions for long enough to withdraw their balance(I have seen screenshots with over $200k in balance) with the help of an amazon employee. The listing company and amazon employee are both paid via Bitcoin.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#373

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I've listed a few things on Amazon. This is very much true. If you don't have a registered trademark youre a second class citizen. You can't upload a video, for example.

Amazon isn't eBay. In theory, for us punters: we should be flogged goods by Amazon that conform to local standards. Beyond that all bets are off. eBay doesn't even bother with ... anything - it's all caveat emptor. So even in the wild west of Amazon at least there are a few standards. Sorry if you feel aggrieved but I'd rather buy stuff that had to follow a few standards that I nominally trust. By registering a trade…

> So even in the wild west of Amazon at least there are a few standards.

Getting a trademark isn't an "Amazon standard." It's a requirement to use A+ Content, among many other things.

However, you can ship product into their warehouses all day long without one. So clearly not a "standard."

> I'd rather buy stuff that had to follow a few standards that I nominally trust.

The standards, like food safety, that people really care about have nothing to do with trademarks. You can say that it stops unsafe knockoffs, but this is factually wrong based on the amount of counterfeit stuff that comes out of Amazon.

> By registering a trademark/incorporating/etc you are declaring your intention to work within the rules or at least some rules.

Registering a trademark only guarantees you are willing to follow the rules of getting a trademark. Nothing else.

> You are actually trying to avoid being a citizen at all if you don't want to abide by rules designed to protect customers.

Non sequitur. Trademarks don't exist to protect customers. They exist to protect businesses from knockoffs.

> you seem to imply that you want to use it for ad hoc sales.

Nope. I just don't want to spend 850 Euro to register a trademark for a low volume product.

> Amazon is for shop style sales ie vendors with product lines and inventory.

There's a "have one to sell? Sell on Amazon" link on every product page.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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My understanding is that the items have different uuids, but there are no markings on the physical item. They’re identified by bin location. There are lots of bins in the warehouse. They contain up to around five items each. There is a theoretical possibility that two of the same thing from different sellers could end up in the same bin. At that point the picker wouldn’t know which is which.

> There is a theoretical possibility that two of the same thing from different sellers could end up in the same bin. At that point the picker wouldn’t know which is which. Amazon's seller-side stickerless inventory documentation specifically says that identical items from different sellers are never put into same physical bin so that the original source can be traced.

>Amazon's seller-side stickerless inventory documentation specifically says that identical items from different sellers are never put into same physical bin so that the original source can be traced.

Irrelevant to the discussion. Keep reading the link that cj provided, starting at the "Example", and you'll see that there is nothing preventing a counterfeit item being sold on behalf of a FBA seller even if the seller shipped genuine items to Amazon. All virtual tracking does is (theoretically) allow *tracing* of the counterfeit item should it be detected and reported.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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All this cheap junk follows a fairly reliable markup scheme: Factory sells for 1x Taobao sells for 2x Aliexpress sells for 3-4x (2x Taobao) Ebay sells for 8-10x. (~2x Aliexpress) I think Aliexpress is usually about 20% of the Amazon price, but depending on the item I agree that it can be 10%.

I bought an espresso machine via Taobao last year and had to jump through SO many hoops to get it. But even with the hoops it ended up being an absolute steal - 1/10 the price of a US-based purchase. Any idea why Taobao goes through such great effort to prevent American buyers from using the platform? (Or was I doing it wrong…? I used one of the Taobao forwarding services)

Slightly OT but that espresso machine will use high-pressure steam. Not the type of thing I'd want to buy from MOFFBUZW!

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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That is basically what WireCutter is, among many others.

If you’re buying something that Lee Valley sells, and you typically go for the higher-end rather than the budget pick, you can basically skip the Wirecutter guide and just buy whatever Lee Valley stocks. (Not much in the way of electronics, but lots of tools and home stuff.) Extra benefit if you’re Canadian; lots of Wirecutter stuff isn’t available in Canada, and Lee Valley is Canadian. The Lee Valley curation is inc…

They deserve an award. They even have product descriptions with use cases not intended by the vendor of the product.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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Amazon isn't eBay. In theory, for us punters: we should be flogged goods by Amazon that conform to local standards. Beyond that all bets are off. eBay doesn't even bother with ... anything - it's all caveat emptor. So even in the wild west of Amazon at least there are a few standards. Sorry if you feel aggrieved but I'd rather buy stuff that had to follow a few standards that I nominally trust. By registering a trade…

That's the problem: Amazon gives the false sense of brand identity and quality, forcing these problems, whereas eBay is transparently honest. The latter approach is simply better.

True. Amazon tries so hard to hide the fact that 3rd party sellers exist that to the casual user it feels like they're buying everything from Amazon.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

#378

Its funny how much less online shopping Im doing these days specifically because of my bad experiences ordering from Amazon. I feel super old school going into stores, and even my girlfriend complains about it, but I no longer will risk the annoyance of delivery times and returns processes - nor the risky health effects of buying food online or clothing or kitchen ware that I'll interact with often.

I find the best strat is to buy only from a trusted reseller. In Australia, Kmart tends to have decent and cheap quality items for nearly everything.

Re: Cheap junk flooding Amazon has brand names like MOFFBUZW

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I KNEW people would ask this ; it was a major aspect of the story for some reason. They kept making reference to how these "ultra orthodox jews in brooklyn" were doing some revolutionary marketing/profiteering on the interenet/amazon specifically and how they were making a fortune doing so... It was _fundamental_ to whomever wrote the piece... So I mentioned it here. Sorry I failed your "anti-semetic triggers" - FFS.

Well, to be fair, if "these scammers are ultra orthodox Jews" was central to the piece "for some reason", the author might've been a tad on the antisemitic side. At least your (in this context overstated and seemingly unnecessary) mention of their religion makes it sound like it.

>At least your (in this context overstated and seemingly unnecessary) mention of their religion makes it sound like it.

I interpreted the comment differently to you. To me, it appeared that the GP was merely trying to give all the details he remembered from the story. Each additional detail helps when trying to find a decade(s) old story on google or similar.

When reporting descriptions of people, the more detail, the better. Withholding things like race, religion, etc in an effort to be more PC results in a less accurate description.

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