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FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by Razengan »

moomoo11 wrote: post #42

Of course not. Every government is going to look out for themselves. Following your reasoning, look at China. They have their own playbook for operating within China, and it is quite restrictive. They make it harder for foreign entities to do business within China. From a geopolitical viewpoint this makes complete sense. You don't want your rival to have a backdoor into influencing/manipulating/discovering how people…

> I didn't immigrate here to downgrade lol

You can still upgrade, you know.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by diogenes_of_ak »

throw0101a wrote: post #340
blacklion wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want USA to do whatever it needs to be the top player Are you sure? Several months ago I've woke up to learn, that my country start to kill civilians of other country with bombs, missiles and shelling, to become "top player". And, what is even worse, many of my fellow citizens support it. Now I'm trying to leave this country for some other, which don't have ambitions to be top-player but don't kill civilians and…

>> I want USA to do whatever it needs to be the top player > Are you sure? Would you rather have someone else / some other country (other than the US) be the hegemon? If so, who? And are they willing to do it?

Perhaps it would be better if nobody was the hegemon eh?

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by xwdv »

coffeeblack wrote: post #367

Isn’t that what Trump said three years ago and was labeled “racist” for it?

Yes. I think this is one of the topics Trump was spot on about but because of his reputation he was ignored. TikTok should have been banned and the United States would have been better off for it.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by bigDinosaur »

blitz_skull wrote: post #333
blacklion wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I want USA to do whatever it needs to be the top player Are you sure? Several months ago I've woke up to learn, that my country start to kill civilians of other country with bombs, missiles and shelling, to become "top player". And, what is even worse, many of my fellow citizens support it. Now I'm trying to leave this country for some other, which don't have ambitions to be top-player but don't kill civilians and…

This comment seems in bad faith. I think it’s pretty clear this conversation wasn’t about killing civilians so the comment about “whatever necessary” probably wasn’t intended to include violations of the Geneva convention. Just saying.

'Whatever it needs' is fairly unambiguous language and including violence in that is not a particularly unpopular viewpoint in recent history.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by diogenes_of_ak »

atwood22 wrote: post #351
themitigating wrote: post #339

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"As for me, I'm an American and it is in my best interests that USA stays top dog. I didn't immigrate here to downgrade lol, so I want USA to do whatever it needs to be the top player." The country or its people? This seems like a very selfish sentiment. Shouldn't we want everyone to prosper, no matter where they are from? There are countless who may not be able to afford to emigrate to the US

Life is largely zero-sum.

This is a weird thought. Nearly none of my wife is zero sum.

Who loses out if I buy you a beer? Or if my wife and I love each other? Or if people are nice to others?

Like seriously - if I treat someone else with respect and dignity am I required to shit on someone else? Of course not.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by tsegratis »

Thankyou @dang for allowing this conversation. I appreciate your desire for inquisitive civilized debate

Which inversely correlates with the importance of the debate to the participants. We see it in this thread

But I don't want to avoid important topics to people for the sake of civility, rather I would like, as is happening here, for those topics to become the best places for people to learn inquisitive engagement

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

blacklion wrote: post #277
moomoo11 wrote: post #42

Of course not. Every government is going to look out for themselves. Following your reasoning, look at China. They have their own playbook for operating within China, and it is quite restrictive. They make it harder for foreign entities to do business within China. From a geopolitical viewpoint this makes complete sense. You don't want your rival to have a backdoor into influencing/manipulating/discovering how people…

> I want USA to do whatever it needs to be the top player Are you sure? Several months ago I've woke up to learn, that my country start to kill civilians of other country with bombs, missiles and shelling, to become "top player". And, what is even worse, many of my fellow citizens support it. Now I'm trying to leave this country for some other, which don't have ambitions to be top-player but don't kill civilians and…

> Now I'm trying to leave this country for some other, which don't have ambitions to be top-player but don't kill civilians and don't attack malls and hospitals.

Good luck man, there aren't many such countries. I live in slovenia, we're like tiny, point a finger at putin and meanwhile have soldiers in syria.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by Msw242 »

bilbo0s wrote: post #369
throw0101a wrote: post #340

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>> I want USA to do whatever it needs to be the top player > Are you sure? Would you rather have someone else / some other country (other than the US) be the hegemon? If so, who? And are they willing to do it?

No top player. And many top players. MAD, as insane as it may sound, actually works. Everyone being fearful of massive retaliatory strikes keeps everyone in line. You get all sorts of bad behavior when nations have no fear of massive retaliatory strikes.

The world map has been mostly frozen the last few decades precisely because USA is the global hegemon and world police.

Regional powers (which is what we would devolve to) are demonstrating exactly what the world would look like without America running the show: conquest and genocide in Ukraine, saber rattling in the south china sea, genocide of the Kurds.

We don't have an interest in solving for all the world's ills, and we are the source of many.

But the world has been less stable and more dangerous in the past.

What you are espousing is a luxury belief.

Re: FCC: TikTok is unacceptable security risk and should be removed from app stores

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Post by rpastuszak »

moomoo11 wrote: post #42

Of course not. Every government is going to look out for themselves. Following your reasoning, look at China. They have their own playbook for operating within China, and it is quite restrictive. They make it harder for foreign entities to do business within China. From a geopolitical viewpoint this makes complete sense. You don't want your rival to have a backdoor into influencing/manipulating/discovering how people…

> As for me, I'm an American and it is in my best interests that USA stays top dog. I didn't immigrate here to downgrade lol, so I want USA to do whatever it needs to be the top player.

The interests of your government might not necessarily be aligned with yours.

Likely, their personal gains or the interests of lobbyists would come first and not necessarily align with borders/the colour of your passport cover. If you wanna stay "top dog", perhaps think it through a bit more and think a bit broader.

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