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The case for bad coffee (2015)

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Re: The case for bad coffee (2015)

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Their cold brew based drinks are also good (as a espresso machine owning snob)

Yes I love getting a large nitro cold brew and dumping milk in it! Helped me lose a lot of weight too!

> Helped me lose a lot of weight too!

How? I hope it's not like in Requiem for a Dream with the old lady.

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starbucks can be good, the trick is to order: 1. espresso drinks 2. order one shot extra (starbucks will only put 1 shot of espresso in an 12oz tall--so you should order AT LEAST one extra shot). 3. ask for blonde roast, which is actually not half bad. pike place/standard is a disaster. it will not parallel any craft coffee shop, but this actually makes for drinkable coffee, which is convenient since there are starbu…

The best thing about Starbucks from my perspective is it gives you somewhere in most cities/towns where you can order tea that isn’t horrible.

Any good kind of tea to try in particular from them?

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Last time I was in Oregon I tried to go into a coffee place and get a cup of coffee. Now, I'm admittedly not a big fancy coffee guy, usually drinking whatever Dunkin Donuts or McDonald's swill I can get, but I couldn't for the life of me figure out what the hell I was supposed to order. It was all fancy names on the menu and nothing that was just "coffee". I finally just said, "I want, like, normal, I don't know, Eas…

He rolled his eyes because of your insinuation that their coffee was abnormal.

Sometimes you want the drug, not the drink. In these situations it is annoying to have to pretend to care about what feels like overly researched excuses for addiction.

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There are right wing political coffee roasteries?

I believe https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ is the biggest, though I believe there was drama surrounding them.

Yes, I was warned against drinking their "cuck coffee", but I never achieved clarity on what their unforgivable offense was.

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I’ve gone through several coffee phases, some bordering on extreme — extremely sensitive weighing, timing, $2,000 grinders, $10k espresso machine, etc. My happy medium is just doing basic pour overs, but with really good locally roasted coffee. To me, this is the cheapest and best approach. In fact, even if pour overs require too much work (weighing, timing), then just do drip. But do it with quality coffee. Quality…

This isn’t directed at you/OP, but the anti dark roast thing seems to me to be a distinctively American coffee snob hipster thing. Many places in the world have wonderful dark roast coffee. Honestly, are these people just wandering around Austria, Italy, Vietnam, Cuba, or Turkey complaining about bad the coffee is? Give me a break.

> American coffee snob hipster thing

I mean there's a reason café americano is a thing: Take a perfectly good espresso and dilute it down.

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I feel the same way about restaurants. I realized a few years ago that I don’t crave Enoteca’s rigatoni; I crave the feeling of unwinding with some friends after a failed attempt at going to an ice cream festival. We were hot. Annoyed. Tired. And had a great time laughing about it at this tiny bistro as the sun set. The food and the restaurant was a setting, and essential, but it was second place behind the social co…

to add to this, if you think about the best hot chocolate you have ever had, it is usually associated with a memory or events surrounding it and not necessarily the quality of the ingredients. heston blumenthol talks about this in his book on The Fat Duck, a 3 star restaurant in the UK.

Absolutely. I noticed recently that context is a big factor in how I enjoy wines. I had a great bottle of red with some friends over dinner at a nice restaurant. A few weeks later, I had the same wine at home by myself and while it tasted the same, I wasn’t as blown away like I was at the restaurant. Context is important.

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The point is that making a beer with a simpler taste profile is harder to control. The 7 hops wacky thing is easier because no one knows what it's supposed to taste like and there's so much going on any off flavors are hidden. That being said, I like macro brews and crazy beers. They both have their place.

Exactly - and the pilsner is "easy" with tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment to monitor and measure everything. But at home, with imperfect tools? You can make almost anything but you can't make it twice. Even some of the craft breweries have difficulty keeping the taste consistent on their brews (this is the reason behind "limited edition runs" often).

No it's easy with an electric kettle system too, or even brewing in jugs. That's why a lot of new brewers start with SMASH recipes, they're easy. There are enough DIPAs on the market now that we know they don't cover flaws that much.

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Beautiful post. More about emotions surrounding shared experiences where coffee happens to be a bystander. This does bring me to a coffee problem that I could never adequately address. How do I with a slight OCD for cleanliness and fondness for one or two cups of good coffee a day develop a coffee ritual that works? My espresso machine is unused most days because I can't settle down with my espresso or cappuccino till I have cleaned the machine. But by that time the coffee is cold and undrinkable. So now I just do a French press or straight up grounds in hot water and metal filter on to a cup. While my unused espresso machine gives me accusing looks. Ah... Life.

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If you need (more than a tiny bit of) sugar/sweetener to enjoy your coffee, then it means you don't really like it. This is fine, but I personally like my coffee, so I can't usually enjoy instant coffee without sugar. Cheap fresh ground coffee is good enough for me (and no need for sugar)

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Beautiful post. More about emotions surrounding shared experiences where coffee happens to be a bystander. This does bring me to a coffee problem that I could never adequately address. How do I with a slight OCD for cleanliness and fondness for one or two cups of good coffee a day develop a coffee ritual that works? My espresso machine is unused most days because I can't settle down with my espresso or cappuccino til…

I think I would recommend warming a ceramic mug that you pull your shot directly in!
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