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I wish r/kroger and r/antiwork would intersect more, it's so sad to see the experiences people post in the former
r/antiwork is propaganda and true-believers amplifying that propaganda. r/Kroger and r/Walmart are real people just trying to deal with life as best they can.
Realistically an Amazon-wide union is the only way Amazon workers are going to get decent wage increases. If the USA is going to allow manufacturers to outsource the majority of well-paid (~$30/hr avg) manufacturing jobs to Mexico and China, without having any cross-border capital flow penalities (neoliberal globalism in a nutshell), then the major employers like Amazon and Walmart are going to have to double their w…
This. A lot of people, even economists, conflate the freedom of trade with the free movement of capital. They are not the same and not equivalent. I like to point people to this comic [1] that someone made when the TPP was hot news as it accurately describes this in a very accessible way. Neoliberalism serves the interests of the capital-owning class. [1]: https://economixcomix.com/home/tpp/
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You literally just did a “both-sides” to social change. “Maintaining order” is an act of violence when people’s lives are on the line. A specific social change is either good or bad, there’s no room for people to stand in the middle and obstruct because they can’t be bothered to figure out if they value the risk of change more than the damage of staying the same.
No I answered a question. I very explicitly noted following the question I wasn't going to make specify judgement either way, not because "both sides" but to prevent over zealous users from trying to fight me on it as well as to keep the topic to what I've said as opposed to what people want me to have said so the they can enter their own tirade, which evidently failed.
And the answer fixated on the "language" of the message, not the merit or contents of the message. Such an answer is worse than useless given the stakes of the question.
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>Another metric: "How long does it take to earn enough for my baseline expenses (rent, food, health, retirement money, etc.)". In my opinion, this is the only valid metric. If a business cannot pay people enough to live, the business should not exist. Businesses do not have more of a right to exist than the workers that make them up. Full stop.
> If a business cannot pay people enough to live, the business should not exist. I'll assume you are talking about full time all year jobs. Each one of the baseline expenses defined above are not nominally set in stone. They are different for every person. I might define baseline food as beans and rice, while others might define it as steak and lobster. The same goes for the other baseline expenses defined above. Thi…
And such quibbling over definitions is irrelevant when people can't even afford the more affordable of the two.
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> If the USA is going to allow manufacturers to outsource the majority of well-paid (~$30/hr avg) manufacturing jobs to Mexico and China What? You think overseas manufacturers are paying $30 an hour? It wasn't high-skilled manufacturing that was outsourced. Welders and machinists still have near zero unemployment and make about as much as a software engineer. It was low skilled manufacturing jobs that were outsourced…
If the jobs were to come back to the US, they'd need to pay $18+/hour, since they're worse than a warehouse job, and Amazon pays so well. At that point, the factory owner is going to be focused on automation and robotics, so most of the jobs they offer will be for highly skilled positions (and pay more than welders or machinists make).
Not all warehouse jobs are equally terrible, as evidenced by the people working at warehouses other than Amazon's at lower wages. Amazon pays above the going rate for warehouse workers because of its reputation w.r.t. worker conditions.
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The article has a photo of a slide with the words “don’t sign” on it at the top.
can’t believe i missed that after scrolling through all the images. how do i downvote myself. this should be illegal.
If you’re talking about missing the slide title, don’t be so hard on yourself, mistakes happen.
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Yes, a big chunk of the labor shortages in hospitality, child care, etc. we’ve seen the last two years is a direct result of Amazon hiring lots and lots of people. And as shitty as the conditions of those jobs may be, they’re often still better than where they’re coming from. Sticking labels to boxes and moving them around a warehouse all day may still be better than dealing with handsy bar hounds or screaming childr…
wages are one thing, working conditions are another. It doesn't matter how much you pay me if I can't see my kids and have to pee in a bottle.
Obviously Amazon is giving good enough wages for their working condition as evidenced by people choosing to work there rather than leaving.
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Ironically, he didn’t even cross state lines (at least not that night), he was there the night before sleeping over at a friend’s house.
What are you taking about?
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pmc and workers aren't allies
> pmc and workers aren’t allies The so-called “professional managerial class” is (1) not a class, and (2) a grouping that cuts across the proletariat and petit bourgeiosie (and is largely contained within the intelligentsia component of those classes.) (Its basically an American-Left resurrection of the Leninist critique of the behavior of the intelligentsia, divorced from the theory in which that critique was ground…
The exercise of control over capital/means of production (what defines PMC) isnt exactly the same thing as ownership but it's closer to that than only being able to offer labor.
It's not uncommon for it to be better. PMCs (e.g. C level execs) of major corporations a often make out better than shareholders.