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Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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The "at the time" was 1965. Contraception was new and controversial 50 years ago. It's not anymore and is widely supported. Is there any current law or proposal to outlaw contraception? Such a law would be wildly unpopular, even among most pro-life people.

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Is it possible to avoid a flame war at this point? I believe this arricle is way too inflammatory, political and uninteresting for this forum.

If we only posted articles lacking in controversy that would be uninteresting.

Nope. There are plenty of challenging problems that are not controversial, and disagreements can be dealt with amicably. You can have friendly opponents/competitors.

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Ignoring abortion, I suspect that states without contraception, IVF or gay rights will be of less interest to a significant portion of the tech workforce. Companies would have to provide alternatives unless they want to limit their hiring to red state natives. Good argument for wfh to get talent that just won’t go there. Note that most contraceptives prevent implantation and IVF creates more embryos than needed. Both…

“Prove you had a miscarriage“ Shudders Sounds a lot like “if she floats she’s a witch”

Essentially a summary of the world at large.

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It's not unprecedented. That was basically the premise of mandatory bussing: Force children to go schools they may not like simply to even out the racial proportion. Obviously, it didn't work.

Do you think busing was for the culture - and not - giving access to better-funded schools?

Mandatory bussing wasn't for cultural purposes, at least not directly. But you seem to forget that the rulings didn't just give some kids access to better schools but also put kids in worse ones solely for the purpose of achieving a racial balance. Parents could pay high property taxes for a school they can't send their children to due to racial quotas. It's essentially a form of robbing Peter to pay Paul.

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I know, it's almost like when it comes to harming other people the state has some sort of power over us. I'm sure there are some people that would love to murder their neighbors. I mean, if that's their preference, why should the state intervene at all? If you're engaging in some activity that doesn't harm other individuals, go for it, who cares. In the case of an abortion, there's at least some gray area. I hope we…

> When does a human life start? When you take your first breath.

This has the merit of being pretty clear, in a way I like it, but then abortion can happen up until the day of the birth?

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I just looked at the data, it seems that both of us are somewhat right, but at this point birth control and education outweights abortion law: In 1973, the Roe v. Wade Supreme Court decision legalized abortion in all 50 states. From 1973 to 1980, the abortion rate rose almost 80%, peaking at 29.3 abortions per 1,000 women of childbearing age ...From 1981 through 2017, the abortion rate fell by approximately one-half.…

This isn't a question of who's right or wrong. I'm specifically asking about your claim that abortions are driving "hookup culture." This implies that people are having more sex because of availability of abortions. Why do you think this? For that matter, what makes you think people are having more sex, period?

It's hard to find hard data on it, but in my personal life 10 years ago I experienced women having sex with me only after they felt that they know enough about me and trust me in having a long term relationship, and after the first sex I didn't feel that I still have to prove myself and court, but rather I can focus on having a great time and great relationship with the woman I am with.

Nowdays women have sex with me much earlier in the courtship (generally second date), but they still play hard to get and give a masculine vibe, like they were just brushing their teeth. I can't really blame women doing it, as the high budget movies are portraying the same masculine characters in beutiful female bodies.

Another example that I can provide that I see nowdays is that I was trying to date women in my age range (40), and they are feminine, great to talk to, mature, want to have kids, and talk about being so desparate that they are thinking about just asking a friend to make baby with them to raise up solo, which they know is really really hard. I have a great time talking to them, I just more see them as friends than people I would like to have relationship with.

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It’s happening. I think it’s going to get way worse than most people believe.

Yep. They have already started talking about reversing marriage rights and contraception as well. It’s funny that an unelected body is now going to destroy the US and revert things that are clearly the majority opinion of the population. Im glad I have dual citizenship because It does feel like the next 4 years is going to be a very sharp downturn (socially) in the US.

If it's the majority opinion it should have no problem being passed in federal or state legislature

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Literally every state that bans abortion has concessions for rape victims, not a single one enforces any laws against birth control. I'm not sure who you think you're fighting here.

Factually wrong: "Of the 22 states with abortion bans that will instantly take effect if the landmark Supreme Court ruling is overturned, 10 have passed laws that make no exceptions for rape or incest: Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee and Texas." https://news.yahoo.com/some-republican-states-set-to-ban-abo... --- Nazi is a loaded term for sure but I don't know w…

There are so many problems with your statement I don’t even know where to start. It is pointless to debate.

Re: Google says US employees can relocate to states with abortion rights

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This is exactly how things should work. If you don't like the politics of one state, you should move to another state. States should retain authority over their laws not enumerated in the constitution. The diversity of states, some with weed, some with no income tax, some with abortion, some with an oil stipend, is a great thing. Hopefully most companies end up supporting this
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