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Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Post by m2f2 »

joedissmeyer wrote: post #223
laura2013 wrote: post #214

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I can only hope they let VMware operate independently and continue growing like they've done in the past decade.

It is best to set your expectations extremely low for this type of acquisition. My personal opinion: Broadcom is _buying_ its way into the Enterprise technology space by hook or crook. When Broadcom acquires a company their M.O. is to immediately install finance-driven leadership and focus strictly on cost cutting measures coupled with accelerated profit-making endeavors. The only thing VMware employees have to look…

Not at all. Broadcom is well known to pimp up license and maintenance prices for all their sw portfolio while cutting fat and flesh in the process.

Disclaimer: forced Broadcom customer here

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Post by alar44 »

unabridged wrote: post #52

Enterprise software is such a mystery to me. I can't imagine any company ran by To me it just looks like older companies paying to keep from having to deal with Linux directly

Really? I work for a manufacturing company. We lose about $50k/hr if systems are down. Paying for vendor support is a fucking no brainer.

"Use proxmox" - fucking lol

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Post by ComradePhil »

system2 wrote: post #369

Can anyone explain how VMware's stock jumped from $90 to $120 on May 23rd before this was announced? How did people know this was going to happen 3 days before anyone of us heard of it?

Insider trading... but the very people who are supposed to be preventing this are involved in thr same thing all the time.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Post by andyjohnson0 »

anthk wrote: post #309
andyjohnson0 wrote: post #175

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This. Virtualisation has been commodified - cloud, kubernetes, docker, hyper-v, even virtualbox. Whereas securing a decade's worth of on-prem infrastructure is a real pain-point for enterprises. VMware Workstation blew my mind when I saw it demoed in (I think) mid-2000 [1]. I genuinely couldn't believe what I was seeing - it seemed that revolutionary, running an OS inside an OS on a desktop. I wonder whether VMware's…

>VMware's problem nowadays is that, having basically invented the technology, IBM, actually, on mainframes.

> IBM, actually, on mainframes.

Yes, I noted that in my post. I guess I meant general purpose virtualisation running on general purpose, commodity hardware.

Back in the late 80s spent 18 months in a role where I was developing scientific software on an IBM System/36 under VM/CMS. While this system actually had a hypervisor (CP) running on the physical hardware, and itself running virtualised instances of the CMS OS, it never felt (in hindsight) like I was in a virtualised environment. It seemed more like being logged into a multi-user unix box where everything ran in the same kernel - perhaps because the mainframe virtualisation layer was completely invisible to me, and everyone on the mainframe saw the same OS.

But point taken.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Post by tlamponi »

scarface74 wrote: post #320
nimbius wrote: post #299

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colour me unimpressed. VMWare cheerleaders haul out openstack as their touchstone example of how hard VM's are in linux but forget that VMWare pales in comparison to what Openstack is, which is an entire full-stack cloud hosting provider with accounting, DNS, tenant metering and network delegation, and support for k8s. Start comparing VMWare against Proxmox, which is an out of the box solution anyone can use and incl…

You don’t grok “the enterprise”. Any CTO of a large company would feel much better about having VMWare behind them and their ecosystem than your proposed solution. “No one ever got fired for buying IBM” applies equally to big enterprise SaaS providers and companies like Oracle, Microsoft, VMWare, Salesforce, etc.

Proxmox provides enterprise support staffed mostly by devs and engineers, and not some crappy outsourced service asking you the three questions from their predefined support handling sheet.

It is also deployed in many many enterprise and government settings.

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Post by Sakos »

babelfish wrote: post #253
Sakos wrote: post #134

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China doesn't care about the size of companies. Alibaba ran into political problems because they wanted to compete in an industry with established players with strong relations to regional governments and different parts of the CCP.

Source?

Example: https://thediplomat.com/2021/09/the-real-cause-of-chinas-ali...

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Post by skinnymuch »

yencabulator wrote: post #217
jnovek wrote: post #165

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I lease a car every four years in part so that I don’t have to deal with the inevitable car repairs that come after that point. For some — but not all — people, that’s a preferable option. For some — but not all — companies, enterprise tech is a preferable option.

I typically own cars 4-10 years old. I'm currently still happy with a 2008 model that has had exactly one non-maintenance, non-upgrade, cost -- which wouldn't even have prevented using it in any way, I just like the emissions system to be as eco-friendly as it can. "Inevitable repairs after 4 years" is just a delusion, and silly. Might I suggest you be honest with yourself and say you like the new car feel? Maybe eve…

Not thinking about the tires is exactly the point. You said it yourself. What are you arguing for then?

The OP prob doesn’t want to enjoy the car. It’s a car. I don’t care about cars either. I don’t enjoy them as much as use them for their purpose of transportation.

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Post by skinnymuch »

bsagdiyev wrote: post #203
sbf501 wrote: post #151

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That's really interesting. So a company would hire Crowdstrike/VMWare, and say "here's all these endpoints, make sure they are secure"? And then CS/VM would provide the service to manage the assets and their connectivity? Ka-ching. I would not want to spin up an IT team to do all of this if I could hire some experts with concentrated knowledge.

Hit the nail on the head. It's a bit more than that realistically. I work for CrowdStrike just so any potential bias is out there in the open, but do not speak for them.

Hope you started working there years ago and got that sweet stock gains

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Post by chrisjc »

gunnarmorling wrote: post #285
chrisjc wrote: post #146

Probably an insignificant detail when considering the entire portfolio of subsidiaries and services under VMWare, but I guess there are some pretty notable projects included in this acquisition. Especially from the Pivotal portfolio such as RabbitMQ, GreenPlum, Spring, Hibernate, etc... although I'm sure most here couldn't care less about Spring related projects.

Hibernate isn't part of the Pivotal portfolio. I'm sure there are contributions by Pivotal employees, but the core Hibernate engineering team is employed by Red Hat, who also own the trademark, etc. Disclaimer: I work for Red Hat and used to be part of the Hibernate team

Ah yes, now I recall!

I had concerns that Vertx was bundled into that portfolio too, but RH to rescue again.

Re: Broadcom to acquire VMware for $61B

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Post by scarface74 »

tlamponi wrote: post #375
scarface74 wrote: post #320

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You don’t grok “the enterprise”. Any CTO of a large company would feel much better about having VMWare behind them and their ecosystem than your proposed solution. “No one ever got fired for buying IBM” applies equally to big enterprise SaaS providers and companies like Oracle, Microsoft, VMWare, Salesforce, etc.

Proxmox provides enterprise support staffed mostly by devs and engineers, and not some crappy outsourced service asking you the three questions from their predefined support handling sheet. It is also deployed in many many enterprise and government settings.

Again, you’re arguing about technology which is besides the point. A CTO in the enterprise is going to make the safe choice.

Also, notice when you go to VMWare’s home page you see “referenceable clients” - ie well known companies that use the software? This is “Enterprise Marketing 101”.

Besides, I can throw a stick and find someone who knows VMWare. As a (hypothetical) CTO of a non tech company, I don’t want “support”, I might want an MSP to do it for me.

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