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Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by skelpie_6000 »

thomasfedb wrote: post #256
renox wrote: post #245

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Discrimination is a fuzzy word.. Is-it discrimination to forbid trans-women to participate in the same sports category as bio-women?

A blanket ban would be I think. Having a blanket ban demonstrates that you are judging transgender people on their transgender status alone, rather than making an evidence-based assessment of whether a particular athlete has an unfair advantage. The International Olympic Committee, for example, has a framework for precisely this (you can read it here, it's pretty easy going: https://stillmed.olympics.com/media/Docume…

> Having a blanket ban demonstrates that you are judging transgender people on their transgender status alone,

No, by their sex - just like everyone else.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by skelpie_6000 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #362
rendall wrote: post #359

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> rights that you, as a cis person, are willing to give them? The problem with these particular "rights" is that they are not actually rights, but impositions on the rights of others. It's disingenuous to compare being trans to race or being gay. Race and orientation is an immutable characteristic of the person. As yet, gender dysmorphia is recognized as a mental illness, which requires therapy, hormones and surgery…

> Race and orientation is an immutable characteristic of the person. That is no more true that it is of gender identity. > As yet, gender dysmorphia is recognized as a mental illness So was homosexuality (also, you’ve confused dysphoria with dysmorphia. Also also, the diagnosable condition of gender dysphoria is not the same thing as having transgender identity; they are distinct.) > which requires therapy, hormones…

> > Race and orientation is an immutable characteristic of the person.

> That is no more true that it is of gender identity.

Some people detransition, i.e. their gender identity changes back to match their sex. This demonstrates that gender identity is not immutable.

For example, here's a fascinating piece by a recent detransitioner, about how, and why, her gender identity was male for several years: https://lacroicsz.substack.com/p/by-any-other-name

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by sascha_sl »

actual-terf wrote: post #295
fsociety wrote: post #280

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If you want to see the TERF mindset, and I recognize that the word is thrown around too easily, check out Lily Cade’s speech against trans people. It does advocate for violence. There are also very real statistics and accounts of violence against trans people. The numbers are shy in comparison to COVID deaths, but you have to account for the number of people who do transition and do not hide it. Is this priority #1 i…

No, if you want to actually understand the radical feminist position on this (and other topics), read the works of radical feminists, not furious ranting blog posts. I'd recommend these books to start off with - two classics, for the historical perspective, and two more recent ones, that discuss the modern transactivist movement that's so controversial right now: * Janice Raymond, The Transsexual Empire: The Making o…

> The problem of transsexualism would best be served by morally mandating it out of existence.

> All transsexuals rape women's bodies by reducing the real female form to an artifact, appropriating this body for themselves.

You mean that book by Janice Raymond?

> So, what I think is very fascinating is that there's a connection between the very jolly Blair government and their Gender Recognition Act and Iran. They love transgenderism because it does help to get rid of this serious problem of homosexuality and it enforces gender. Right? So we do need to be fighting, I think, transgenderism as a state 'project' in terms of gender.

That's uh, Sheila Jeffreys being delusional about how supportive the UK government is towards trans people because Iran's very exceptional asymmetry in how accepting they are of trans people and not gay people.

Counter suggestion: Read Gender Trouble.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by sascha_sl »

rossdavidh wrote: post #53

Problem for not only Netflix, but any other mammoth media company that wants to appeal to >50% of the population: you can't exclude half the political spectrum (either half). In the last part of the 20th century, the utterly drab and lackluster Three-Letter Networks were drab and lackluster in part because they were trying to avoid offending as large a portion of the population as possible. But, with way more than 3…

What is isn't going to do is make Netflix a partner to something really out there, like Blaze TV.

This entire change to their guidelines feels dishoenst. They paint it as their duty to encourage pluralism, but they in fact just want to platform just enough content on the sidelines to make off with the largest profit profit margins.

It's another surrender to the power of the almighty dollar. I'd much prefer if Netflix was smaller and other competitors were around to fill that hole in the market so I could, as they say, vote with my wallet. (That phrase is never a dismissive sham, I swear!)

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by nicolas_t »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #104
aftbit wrote: post #32

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I'm not sure you're disagreeing. It seems more like you are proving the parent post's point. You didn't watch the movie, yet you had an emotional reaction to it anyway, and used that to make a decision about the service. The parent isn't saying that's unethical or anything, just that the movie is being mischaracterized by people who did not watch it.

Another way to interpret the GP is that even if the movie itself was a great coming-of-age story, the trailer Netflix made to promote it was disgusting and unacceptable. That seems reasonable enough to me. (Note that I’ve watched neither the movie nor the trailer.)

Ok, that I'll concede, the trailer which I saw after watching the movie was really really bad. Very poor and tone deaf marketing.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by woobar »

ratsmack wrote: post #45
joemazerino wrote: post #4

I cancelled my Netflix account after the whole Cuties debacle. While visiting my friends I have noticed that Netflix content quality has been dropping sharply the last few years. Let's hope this exodus of customers and content creators will create a new, more interesting industry for the future.

>... quality has been dropping sharply the last few years ... This is the same trajectory that Disney is taking. They are losing subscribers also as people are becoming tired of the agenda driven content.

Are they losing subscribers?

"Disney+ added 7.5 million subscribers in Q2, while Netflix struggles." [1]

[1] https://www.investors.com/news/disney-earnings-q2-disney-sto...

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by rendall »

skelpie_6000 wrote: post #372
dragonwriter wrote: post #362

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Race and orientation is an immutable characteristic of the person. That is no more true that it is of gender identity. > As yet, gender dysmorphia is recognized as a mental illness So was homosexuality (also, you’ve confused dysphoria with dysmorphia. Also also, the diagnosable condition of gender dysphoria is not the same thing as having transgender identity; they are distinct.) > which requires therapy, hormones…

> > Race and orientation is an immutable characteristic of the person. > That is no more true that it is of gender identity. Some people detransition, i.e. their gender identity changes back to match their sex. This demonstrates that gender identity is not immutable. For example, here's a fascinating piece by a recent detransitioner, about how, and why, her gender identity was male for several years: https://lacroics…

I think GP believes that race and orientation is mutable, and so agrees that gender identity is, as well. At least, it's how I read that.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by blendergeek »

ambrozk wrote: post #46
joemazerino wrote: post #4

I cancelled my Netflix account after the whole Cuties debacle. While visiting my friends I have noticed that Netflix content quality has been dropping sharply the last few years. Let's hope this exodus of customers and content creators will create a new, more interesting industry for the future.

Sidebar, but the "Cuties debacle" is nothing more than a moral panic. Cuties is a great movie about an immigrant kid struggling to cope with a broken home by escaping her parents and becoming a "normal French girl." She doesn't know how to fit in so she tries to gain acceptance with her non-immigrant school-friends by hyper-sexualizing herself. The story a searing criticism of the sexualization of children, not a cel…

Maybe the "Cuties debacle" refers to the promotional imagery put out by Netflix with regards to the film. See here [0] a side-by-side comparison of the original poster for the film and the Netflix poster for the film.

People who only saw the Netflix poster could have a very different view of the movie and some might even refuse to watch the film.

[0] https://cdn.hobbyconsolas.com/sites/navi.axelspringer.es/pub...

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by skelpie_6000 »

rendall wrote: post #377
skelpie_6000 wrote: post #372

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> > Race and orientation is an immutable characteristic of the person. > That is no more true that it is of gender identity. Some people detransition, i.e. their gender identity changes back to match their sex. This demonstrates that gender identity is not immutable. For example, here's a fascinating piece by a recent detransitioner, about how, and why, her gender identity was male for several years: https://lacroics…

I think GP believes that race and orientation is mutable, and so agrees that gender identity is, as well. At least, it's how I read that.

Thanks, I think you're right, I'd misread what they said.

Re: Netflix to Employees: If you don't like our content, you can quit

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Post by flavius29663 »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #367
antifa wrote: post #340

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> if you want to give his point a generous interpretation No need to be generous, it's a centuries long historic fact. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_LGBT_people

I agree. I just thought I’d sidestep any potential debate and reiterate the heart of the matter which should be impossible for anyone to deny.

being trans or gay is such a big thing, I don't really think you can hide from being trans... It seems to me like it's being trivialized today, and some kids are pushed to say they are one just to be in trend with others. Body dysmorphia is no joke, it's like saying: there were always these many anorexic girls, they were just too shy to show it.
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