371–380 of 431 posts
There is no way to verify that a hash is actually checking for CSAM.
It can be used for anything by any future government good or bad.
E.g. an Austrian musician was recently imprisoned for 10 years for composing/producing pro-Nazi songs. A hash check could find anyone who listened to the music (even reporters curious to listen to what they are reporting on.)
CSAM is a useful vehicle to get this technology deployed since no one is pro CSAM.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t think Macs have any built in ability to report CSAM.
Not yet no, because Apple postponed their plans. But it was planned along with the plans for iOS. The Mac was not going to be excluded.
as far as I know the delays are more about giving apple's friends in hollywood some time to cleanup than caving to libertarian outrage
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They had a great 20 year run on the terrorism narrative, but they need a new nightmare, and they’ve apparently settled on child predators. just a second, we've got the new Russia - Ukraine nightmare.
>just a second, we've got the new Russia - Ukraine nightmare. Find a Ukrainian living through the war and ask them if it's a manufactured nightmare or a real one...
(Just to be sure, here is a reminder that some HN members are in that. No need to find - it's part of this public.
The author of Leaflet is the first that comes to (my) mind, and many others then.)
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Frontex want's to have a word with you..... Let's hear your thesis here... > And your Italian coastguard let people drown because it's law?.... They actually don't. Some politician (a Trump and Putin supporter, BTW!) tried to make them drawn for political gains and was beaten by a German young Captain Woman. [1] many people in Europe protested against what Salvini was doing. [2] [3] [4] France officially condemned…
>They actually don't. Since your talking about Rackete.... >>The EU is no longer rescuing drowning migrants and the number of refugees continues to fall. https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/carola-rackete-a... You know that's why she got into troubles?...bringing drowning refugees to europa's coast. >many people in Europe protested against what Salvini was doing. So here you gave already proof that politician…
In May 2022 already most than 10 thousand people reached the coasts of Italy via Mediterranean sea. [1]
Between 2013 and 2016, over 600 thousand people have landed here.
I think Italy is doing its share on that side.
How many of those immigrants went to Hungary, for example?
That's where EU is failing IMO, it should not be permitted to Orban to refuse redistribution of migrants.
Not on CSAM regulations. If governments wnat to know what people are up to, they have to simply open social networks and wait for the people to write it publicly.
No need to spy their conversations.
The reactions here are completely paranoia fueled.
[1] https://data2.unhcr.org/en/situations/mediterranean
On another note: if USA can please stop bombing African countries, maybe people shouldn't escape from the puppet regimes they install there...
> So here you gave already proof that politicians can tell the coast guard what todo right
They can try forcing the law.
What Salvini did was and still is unlawful.
His popularity dropped in a couple of years to a quarter of what it was.
you can also convince people to march armed against Capital Hill, doesn't mean that that's a President's prerogative, it only means that crazy people are everywhere.
At least we haven't built cages for immigrants' children.
https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/07/11/written-testimony-kids-c...
> You know that's we she got into troubles...bringing drowning refugees to europa's coast.
No, it was because Salvini was (temporarily thank God) Interior Minister of Italy.
> Thank you for the proof.
I proved it to you that if the system is resilient, no assault on democracy will last forever.
You're welcome.
Next time we'll talk about what constitute a rightful political action and what doesn't.
In a dozen lessons you might learn how democracy works.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> In Italy we had 67 different governments since 1946. Colloquially when Americans say “government” they are referring to the entire state, including not just elected officials but professional civil servants, police, courts, intelligence agencies, etc. You have definitely not had 67 different governments since 1946 in the sense that I think was meant.
> You have definitely not had 67 different governments I've studied English, not American. So government to me means means "the group of people who officially control a country", like in this BBC headline "Netanyahu out as new Israeli government approved" . We definitely had 67 governments. Or 67 cabinets, if you prefer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Ita...
Remember the Servers: "Strict in formulating the output, loose in interpreting the input".
Earlier quoted context omitted.
>nobody wants to start falsely accusing innocent people. If anything, the 21st century has proven quite a few people are more than willing to do so when they deem the lack of true positives to be the greater evil. Or even just doing it for their own benefit.
Can you give some EU specific examples that can be considered representative and not huge outliers? Shit happens everywhere but where am I in Europe if anything there's a lack of law enforcement in the sense that prison terms always seem to be considered too low, people with sentences under X months don't actually go to jail because of overcrowding, police is constantly frustrated that people they pick off the street…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Your government who wants to control you How exactly? In Italy we had 67 different governments since 1946. What can they do with CSAM data? Government can't blackmail citizen, they can't use CSAM scans for other purposes, they can't even authorize a scan, because that's the justice system prerogative. Do you really believe that in Europe governments are in control of everything like it happens in Russia or in North…
> In Italy we had 67 different governments since 1946. Colloquially when Americans say “government” they are referring to the entire state, including not just elected officials but professional civil servants, police, courts, intelligence agencies, etc. You have definitely not had 67 different governments since 1946 in the sense that I think was meant.
This becomes beyond confusing, impressive, when you realize that 'Minister' is an expression for "servant" (cpr. "civil servant" etc.) as a derivation from 'minus' - 'Minister' is the opposite of 'Master' ('Ma[gi]ster')!)
It's scary, because CSAM (child sexual abuse material) is very, very broad, and quite vague in its definition¹. My three year old son stayed with my parents for a week, and he was being taught to swim in their swimming pool. Of course, I get sent pictures and clips of his progress by a proud grandma, and of course, him being a toddler, he felt swimming trunks to be completely optional (and of course, they are at his…
Earlier quoted context omitted.
> You have definitely not had 67 different governments I've studied English, not American. So government to me means means "the group of people who officially control a country", like in this BBC headline "Netanyahu out as new Israeli government approved" . We definitely had 67 governments. Or 67 cabinets, if you prefer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_prime_ministers_of_Ita...
Every country I'm aware of people also use government as a loose reference to the whole monster of state, branches (judiciary, executive, etc), constitution, laws, etc etc. Didn't know it wasn't used like that in Italy.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
>They actually don't. Since your talking about Rackete.... >>The EU is no longer rescuing drowning migrants and the number of refugees continues to fall. https://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/carola-rackete-a... You know that's why she got into troubles?...bringing drowning refugees to europa's coast. >many people in Europe protested against what Salvini was doing. So here you gave already proof that politician…
> The EU is no longer rescuing drowning migrants and the number of refugees continues to fall. In May 2022 already most than 10 thousand people reached the coasts of Italy via Mediterranean sea. [1] Between 2013 and 2016, over 600 thousand people have landed here. I think Italy is doing its share on that side. How many of those immigrants went to Hungary, for example? That's where EU is failing IMO, it should not be…
Politicians can tell the Coastguard what todo, and they don't "only" do what law says....that was the whole point.
>What Salvini did was and still is unlawful.
Yes and? ...i mean who cares, who gives him a slap on the wrist? And why is the coastguard following a unlawful order?...if they just follow law?