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>To put the market in perspective, there are VPNs that only work if [...] UDP isn’t blocked isn't that true with WireGuard/Tailscale too?
Tailscale employee here. Tailscale has a fallback that does connections to a relay server called DERP. DERP works over HTTPS, so if you can't access the outside world via HTTPS then you have much bigger problems than Tailscale not working.
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Indeed, 1Password is practically a utility at this point, as far as I'm concerned. I really like the direction they're heading and they're solving some pretty tricky problems without compromising on security, predominantly in the enterprise domain. The experience is the same regardless of whether you're an enterprise user or a personal or family user. It's polished enough that my grandma can use it.
> I really like the direction [1Password] is heading I thought customers were complainingly loudly against their new direction of making 1Password an Electron app. Is that not the case? Note: I'm not a 1Password customer.
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> The biggest risk that this company has is that Cloudflare (in all reality) should just buy them or reimplement it. It’s the type of product cloudflare would make, that’s for sure. The same thing is being said on HN about all kind of network software, but tell me one software that Cloudflare is really known for except its cdn ? None. HN is really a strong echo chamber and some people believe Cloudflare and Stripe ar…
We must be in different circles, because WAF (web application firewall) is what I would say they're most known for. But I agree Cloudflare isn't well known (at least yet) fort many of the other things they offer. Been a lot of buzz around workers but I haven't tried it myself yet.
Funding scares me. It bring sharks onboard who do not share the same vision. They will demand revenue and ROI above all else. I like Tailscale but I hate this business model down to the core (Netlify as an example). Tailscale was doing fine as it was, capable people there already. It quickly became an "exit type of business", too quickly. These companies usually bring something really easy to use, let people onboard…
Tailscale investor here. I can assure you we share the same vision with the founders.
Seed investor in Tailscale since 2019.
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I can do that without Tailscale though by just using the WireGuard app. What is Tailscale adding to this?
NAT breaking, I can have a wireguard network with Tailscale where every device only has an RFC1918 address and a default route.
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Dropbox has been fine ish? Like not stellar but it’s still something I use as one of my core tools and pay for.
Ditto, but the fact that they still can’t handle more than ~300k files is a long-standing problem they have yet to solve. I have close to a million syncing files and startup time for the app takes about 20 minutes on a brand new MBP, and CPU and overall energy usage is ridiculously high. All while they keep pushing me to backup more files. I pay over $700/ yr for their business plan and would like to have better perf…
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NAT breaking, I can have a wireguard network with Tailscale where every device only has an RFC1918 address and a default route.
Is forwarding a single port that difficult in most circumstances? I do realize there are some instances where that is hard like CGNAT, but if I have easy access to wireguard in my network already what does tailscale buy me?
Funding scares me. It bring sharks onboard who do not share the same vision. They will demand revenue and ROI above all else. I like Tailscale but I hate this business model down to the core (Netlify as an example). Tailscale was doing fine as it was, capable people there already. It quickly became an "exit type of business", too quickly. These companies usually bring something really easy to use, let people onboard…
> They will demand revenue and ROI above all else. I don't think this is true. They mostly demand growth over all else.
Massive growth just means you can dominate the market then have more flexibility on the price you'll charge.
Funding scares me. It bring sharks onboard who do not share the same vision. They will demand revenue and ROI above all else. I like Tailscale but I hate this business model down to the core (Netlify as an example). Tailscale was doing fine as it was, capable people there already. It quickly became an "exit type of business", too quickly. These companies usually bring something really easy to use, let people onboard…
I am wary of investors wrecking incentives for founders but that ship sails when you raise an A round. They've done an incredibly good job for me in that time, I think they'll keep on doing that.
Why would their free service change? They're going to make money off big companies. They're not going to make money off me with a bait-n-switch to capture my $10/mo personal budget.
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> People sometimes ask me to describe the differences between Nebula and Tailscale. One of the most important relates to performance and scale. Nebula can handle the amount of internal network traffic and scalability of nodes (100k+ nodes, constant churn) required on a large network like Slack's, but Tailscale cannot. Tailscale's performance is fine for many situations, but not suitable for infrastructure. It is just…
Another fair criticism. We will publish the benchmarks and make them repeatable (which most existing ones I've found don't bother to do). We hadn't done so because Tailscale isn't really seen as a direct competitor to what the Nebula project is doing, but if people want numbers, that's a thing we are happy to provide.