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Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by wolverine876 »

gitfan86 wrote: post #365
falcor84 wrote: post #246

>We’ve limited the ability for DALL·E 2 to generate ... adult images. I think that using something like this for porn could potentially offer the biggest benefit to society. So much has been said about how this industry exploits young and vulnerable models. Cheap autogenerated images (and in the future videos) would pretty much remove the demand for human models and eliminate the related suffering, no? EDIT: typo

When you combine advanced versions of this with advanced versions of GTP-3 you will not be able to tell the difference between AI and only fans. I'm not saying that AI will pass all Turing tests. But as far as having a virtual girlfriend/prostitute.

> a virtual girlfriend/prostitute

I'm not picking on the commenter - by itself it's not a big deal - but look at the assumptions behind that comment, which I almost didn't notice on HN.

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by wolverine876 »

uoaei wrote: post #369
sneak wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If people are exposed to stimuli, they will pursue increasingly stimulating versions of it. I.e., if they see artificial CP, they will often begin to become desensitized (habituated) and pursue real CP or even live children thereafter. I have accumulated tens of thousands of headshots in video games but have yet to ever shoot a single real person in the face. More importantly, I have never had the urge to seek out…

The point is more "can you conceive of a headshot before you've ever witnessed one?" And the assertion is, no. I should be explicit -- I am saying the exposure which makes one seek stimulus is merely a catalyst for deeper urges, not a generator of them as such. A certain level of inhibition (e.g. sociopathy) is required but IMO so is a prior conception of the deed. In your example, if someone is predisposed to wantin…

> The point is more "can you conceive of a headshot before you've ever witnessed one?" And the assertion is, no.

I'm not sure that's true. Our brains can imagine a lot that we've never seen, though maybe not very accurately. Inventors and developers and artists do it all the time, if we are talking about the same thing.

I'm not sure that disproves your premise. Virtual experiences may make real ones easier, but some research and details about where it works, where it doesn't, would be helpful. Many training programs use virtual experiences, such as flight simulators.

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Post by astrange »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #145
fbanon wrote: post #10

A friend of mine was studying graphic design, but became disillusioned and decided to switch to frontend programming after he graduated. His thesis advisor said he should be cautious, because automation/AI will soon take the jobs of programmers, implying that graphic design is a safer bet in this regard. Looks like his advisor is a few years from being proven horribly wrong.

If this paper presents this neural net fairly, it pretty much destroys the market of illustrators. Most of the time when an illustration needed, it's described like "an astronaut on a horse in the style xyz".

The best reason to hire a person to do something is they'll give you what you need, not what you asked for. An ML model does not do this.

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Post by wolverine876 »

Siira wrote: post #250
falcor84 wrote: post #246

>We’ve limited the ability for DALL·E 2 to generate ... adult images. I think that using something like this for porn could potentially offer the biggest benefit to society. So much has been said about how this industry exploits young and vulnerable models. Cheap autogenerated images (and in the future videos) would pretty much remove the demand for human models and eliminate the related suffering, no? EDIT: typo

The problem might be that people are simply lying. Their real reasons are religious/ideological, but they cite humanitarian concerns (which their own religious stigma is partly responsible for).

> Their real reasons are religious/ideological, but they cite humanitarian concerns

Are you asserting that nobody has humanitarian concerns? If so, that's quite a statement; what basis is there? I've seen so many humanitarian acts, big and small, that I can't begin to count. I've seen them today. I hear people express humanitarian beliefs and feelings all the time. I do them and have them myself. Maybe I misunderstand.

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Post by astrange »

dntrkv wrote: post #229
0F wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Literally everyone on this website is in denial. They all approach it by asking which fields will be safe. No field is safe. “But it’s not going to happen for a long time.” Climate deniers say the same thing and you think they should be wearing the dunce hat? The average person complains bitterly about climate deniers who say that it’s “my grandkids problem lol” but when I corner the average person into admitting AI…

I don't think anyone is in denial about this, it's just not something anyone should concern themselves with in the foreseeable future. AI that can replace a dev or designer is nowhere close to becoming a reality. Just because we have some cool demos that show some impressive capabilities in a narrow application does not mean we can extrapolate that capability to something that is many times more complex.

I do deny it. Automation does not destroy jobs even if you're impressed at how good it is at painting; see "Luddite fallacy" and "lump of labor".

Claiming AIs are going to take over or destroy the world has been a basis of "AI safety" research since the 90s, but that isn't real research, it's a new religion run by Berkeley rationalists who read too many SF novels.

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Post by a_bonobo »

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #362
minimaxir wrote: post #122

A few comments by someone who's spent way too much time in the AI-generated space: * I recommend reading the Risks and Limitations section that came with it because it's very through: https://github.com/openai/dalle-2-preview/blob/main/system-c... * Unlike GPT-3, my read of this announcement is that OpenAI does not intend to commercialize it, and that access to the waitlist is indeed more for testing its limits (and…

Regarding cherry-picking, the images of astronauts on horses look stunning, except for their hands. There's something seriously wrong with their hands. Maybe give it another five years, a few more $billion and a few more petabytes/flops and it will be good. Then finally everyone can generate art for their own Magic: the Gathering cards. (That's the end goal, right?)

Interestingly, hands are also something humans struggle to draw.

They're a very complex anatomical form, many small tendons and muscles. Many artists struggle to depict hands. They're not made out of a few straight lines like a torso, there's lots of skew going on. They're probably the hardest structure of the human body to 'learn' for a ML system.

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by mycroftiv »

I tried to comment here previously, but I dont see it posted. It was about the meaning of 'open' and whether the question of suffering and freedom of the AIs was being taken into ethical consideration, not just the ability of humans to use them as tools for their own possibly paper-clippy purposes.

Re: Dall-E 2

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Post by rahimnathwani »

Jack000 wrote: post #245
andybak wrote: post #5

Some freely available models GLID-3: https://colab.research.google.com/drive/1x4p2PokZ3XznBn35Q5B... and a new Latent Diffusion notebook: https://colab.research.google.com/github/multimodalart/laten... have both appeared recently and are getting remarkably close to the original Dall-E (maybe better as I can't test the real thing...) So - this was pretty good timing if OpenAI want to appear to be ahead of the pack. Of…

With glide I think we've reached something of a plateau in terms of architecture on the "text to image generator S curve". DALL-E-2 is a very similar architecture to glide and has some notable downsides (poorer language understanding) glid-3 is a relatively small model trained by a single guy on his workstation (aka me) so it's not going to be as good. It's also not fully baked yet so ymmv, although it really depends…

Thanks!

Do you happen to know how much GPU RAM I need to run glid-3 and/or the latent diffusion model, if I don't want to run on colab?

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Post by astrange »

adolph wrote: post #115
oldstrangers wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think designers are becoming more valuable than ever. Designers can better help train the AI on what actually looks good, designers will (probably) always have a more intuitive understanding of UI/UX, designers can better implement the work the AI actually produces, and designers can coordinate designs across multiple different mediums and platforms. Additionally, the rise of no-code development is just extending t…

> I think designers are becoming more valuable than ever. Are all designers becoming more valuable or is a subset of really good ones going to reap the value increase and capture more of the previously available value?

What job you have (theoretically) isn't due to "absolute advantage" but "comparative advantage".

In other words, if someone else is a better designer than you, that actually has nothing to do with if they're going to take your job. They may have something better to do. An ML model isn't a worker no matter how good it is at painting, so rather than having a job it has input resources (RTX 3090s, electricity, maintenance engineers) but the concept is still important.

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