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Re: Starlink lost 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm

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The parent username is verytrivial, so I think we can accept the humour and let it go without splitting, don't you agree?

What makes you think that my comment wasn't humorous?

Probably subjectivity.

Re: Starlink lost 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm

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> ∑∫π²∞ This reads: Sigma Integral Pi-Squared Infinitiy. There are worse names ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

> There are worse names The last name: Musk. And he tries to clean it. https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Elon-Musks-family-got-...

Dunno - quote from Musk

>‘My dad will have a carefully thought-out plan of evil. He will plan evil. Almost every crime you can possibly think of, he has done. Almost every evil thing you could possibly think of, he has done. It’s so terrible, you can’t believe it.’

Doesn't really sound like he's trying to say all the Musks were wonderful.

Re: Starlink lost 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm

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It must be noted that the satellites were not directly damaged by the geomagnetic storm. The storm warmed the atmosphere which caused it to expand, leading to additional drag that prohibited the satellites from leaving their low "safe mode" orbit. Shortened excerpt: "These storms cause the atmosphere to warm and atmospheric density at our low deployment altitudes to increase.... speed and severity of the storm caused…

> It must be noted that the satellites were not directly damaged by the geomagnetic storm. The storm warmed the atmosphere which caused it to expand, leading to additional drag that prohibited the satellites from leaving their low "safe mode" orbit. So they perished “with” geomagnetic storm, not “of” geomagnetic storm?

Semantics…

Re: Starlink lost 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm

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Except for a shower of heavy metal particles. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-89909-7.pdf

"mostly aluminum" Aluminum is not a "heavy metal". Not only is it of low density, it's not toxic in the way actual heavy metals like lead are. Your inclusion of the adjective "heavy" was misleading as that wasn't in the source you referenced.

Maybe they meant "heavy, metal particles", as in that are both metal and "heavy" relative to other materials (so somewhat redundant adjectives); as opposed to, "heavy-metal particles".

Re: Starlink lost 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm

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> There are worse names The last name: Musk. And he tries to clean it. https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-Elon-Musks-family-got-...

Dunno - quote from Musk >‘My dad will have a carefully thought-out plan of evil. He will plan evil. Almost every crime you can possibly think of, he has done. Almost every evil thing you could possibly think of, he has done. It’s so terrible, you can’t believe it.’ Doesn't really sound like he's trying to say all the Musks were wonderful.

In Rolling Stone? Wow. Did not know that.

Re: Starlink lost 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm

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Plus $500 sign up fee ;) This might all seem reasonable in rural America but it’s hugely expensive for internet in Europe.

> Plus $500 sign up fee ;) That's going to average out to less than $10 a month pretty quickly.

The problem with that logic is that it’s not paid across 50 months. It’s a sign up lump sum to pay for the antenna rather than a fixed monthly cost added to your contract duration.

Also your post doesn’t take into account the life span of the antennae, that could be less than 5 years. It doesn’t take into account any competing services that you might want to switch to (eg some internet contracts in the U.K. typically run for 2 years and you’re encouraged to shop around at that point). Nor does it take into account any other personal circumstances that might lead one to cancel Starlink.

Re: Starlink lost 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm

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40 sats makes up about 2% of the current fleet - so a rounding error in cost and time. The important part of this news is how those 40 sats deorbit and leave no junk either in orbit or on earth.

I guess I'm being pedantic, but as a percentage of a whole, isn't 2% not a rounding error by definition?

I guess also pedantic but say 50.4 rounding to 50 is a 2% change hence it can be a rounding error.

Re: Starlink lost 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm

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It must be noted that the satellites were not directly damaged by the geomagnetic storm. The storm warmed the atmosphere which caused it to expand, leading to additional drag that prohibited the satellites from leaving their low "safe mode" orbit. Shortened excerpt: "These storms cause the atmosphere to warm and atmospheric density at our low deployment altitudes to increase.... speed and severity of the storm caused…

> It must be noted that the satellites were not directly damaged by the geomagnetic storm. The storm warmed the atmosphere which caused it to expand, leading to additional drag that prohibited the satellites from leaving their low "safe mode" orbit. So they perished “with” geomagnetic storm, not “of” geomagnetic storm?

That's quite funny but it's clearly wasted here.

Re: Starlink lost 40 satellites to a geomagnetic storm

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It was lost because, during the storm, it was flying too low. If the jet had been flying at a higher altitude, the storm would have still happen and the jet would have been fine. So the storm is not the direct and only cause of the crash. It is important here because one could assume, only reading the title, that the satellite were lost due to electronic disturbances caused by the storm. Which is not what happened (i…

The difference is also important because if it’s an issue with altitude under certain conditions they may be able to take preventive measures with future storms. Whereas torm-related electronic disturbances could lead to satellite design changes.

Preventive measures could also lead to design changes.
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