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Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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So far in the last year or so, I've heard 0 reasons why I'd even need, want or benefit from Win11 over Win10. Tons of reasons in the negative column though. There isn't even anything to salivate over that might make you think it might be worth it to deal with the other tradeoffs. Hard pass.

I still keep a copy of windows to test out viruses and trojan horses. It's a great operating system.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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No, microsoft-edge links are used through Windows itself when it wants to show a webpage, e.g. from Cortana or a desktop widget. They open in Edge even if you've told Windows you want a different default browser

Even still, these are links that you're rarely (if ever) using.

It's all the time if you want to use start menu search.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Hmm, I find it pretty practical, cmd-tab from one app to another, cmd-backtick to toggle between windows, I mean, it's a different paradigm, sure, but you can still move around from the keyboard? I do find it a little annoying that there aren't consistent shortcuts for moving between tabs in everything that uses them, could be cntrl-tab, could be alt-arrows...

I have alt-backtick mapped to my favorite terminal app in Linux, and control-backtick mapped to a new browser window. I'd be buggered if I ever switched to Mac!

Why? Cmd+tilde/backtick is neither of those...

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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I updated to 11 on my laptop but kept 10 on my main machine. I see zero reason to update my main computer to 11. I was willing to give centered start button a try but the fact that you can't turn off grouping of applications in the taskbar is a deal breaker. If I have two firefox windows open I want to know it and to be able to pick which one I want without having to hover my mouse over the icon for a second while th…

It could be worse. You could be on MacOS where Cmd-Tab switches between apps not windows. I currently have 13 browser windows open (each with 3 to 15 tabs) and another 9 windows of other things (terminal, vscode, etc....) and IMO The Cmd-Tab vs Ctrl-Tab vs Ctrl-Up vs Ctrl-Down suck compared to Windows. I really want to easily switch to the previous window, not the previous app. Command + backtick doesn't work either.…

There is no extension or utility that will do it?

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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And yet most people keep trusting them with their code on Github. If people were smart, there would be Freenode-level mass migration away from GH the day the Microsoft purchase was confirmed. But no, everybody will only scream once Microsoft does something shady, as they inevitably will.

> And yet most people keep trusting them with their code on Github. Honestly, from what I've seen many people don't see the issue with this. "The code is public anyway, so what difference does it make?" I'm starting to see the downsides of that viewpoint now, though[0]. If GitHub, and by extension Microsoft, technically 'own' the code (licensing, etc.) then they have free reign over it, leading to things like Copilot…

Sourceforge was also great in the beginning but slowly rotted from one bad monetization idea after another. I hope github doesn't go that way but I'm not optimistic.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Do you think that the OS is dead, or almost dead? That would lead to decades of stagnation, followed by a race to the bottom. If that's true Windows should become a dumpster fire. And the linux desktop will solve everything, just decades too late.

I'm far from saying the OS is dead: it is a necessary component of all modern devices. The point is, it's a commodity now. Apple doesn't charge for it. Linux distributors don't charge for it. Google doesn't charge users for it. And Microsoft not only charges for it, but introduces a ton of adware, telemetry and so forth. For technically-conscious users, it's suboptimal. I don't believe in a sudden revolutionary chang…

So the idea that developing a good desktop makes money is dead? If so, since no further improvements in windows will help MS make loads more money, they may as well set it on fire (i'm just speculating where the current trend might lead. I don't think MS execs have yet made a full decision on commiting arson, but they aren't against the idea), since it can burn for a long time and keep them warm throughout.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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The "wslg" version of WSL, which comes with a Wayland display server built-in, is perhaps a driver. The github page still says it requires Windows 11: https://github.com/microsoft/wslg Though I suppose it's possible they've also pushed it to the insider builds for Windows 10.

Apparently they are only going to allow gpu compute on wsl2 on windows 10 and not allow the full graphics integration.

I'm hoping someone will develop an unofficial tool to unlock wslg on Windows 10.

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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You can do the left-side placement with just Windows 11. There's a "taskbar alignment" setting that can be "left" or "center".

It's not "a setting" but an obscure registry entry. And have you actually tried it? I did and it's a joke - you get the taskbar there but no icons on it lol. And how about drag and drop? Or grouping?

For me, it's a setting, and yes, I tried it and it works: https://imgur.com/a/QSxE92W

I didn't mention the other two things because they aren't available settings. I mentioned the one that is, because I thought it might be helpful.

Aside: Why do people jump to snark so fast?

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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This. Just like in the ol' good days, install an API hook (e.g. with Microsoft Detours[1]) that would patch relevant functions in-memory. Microsoft cannot block this because they'll be breaking lots of existing things (automation tools, gaming overlays, AV software even). And if MS would want to play it rough and start blocking hook DLLs with permission barriers, make this API patcher a kernel module. [1]: https://gi…

Firefox already does Detours-style API hooking -- I was its maintainer for several years.

What is the API hooking used for?

Re: Windows 11 Officially Shuts Down Firefox’s Default Browser Workaround

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Microsoft, like many other big modern tech companies, just treat goodwill like a currency. Now the time has come to spend it again. I don't believe for a second that EEE is gone from Microsofts culture and strategy.

It's more that Microsoft is a huge company that contains both benevolent and malevolent actors. The Windows team has embraced dark patterns wholeheartedly whereas the VSCode team is doing good work to earn developer love. That these goals are in complete opposition seems to not trouble MS execs.

The VSCode team is busy releasing proprietary extensions which won't run on open source builds of Code, but only proprietary builds packaged by Microsoft.
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