The competitive landscape for what is turning out to be the next evolution of in-home video content delivery is just making me realize that the content is not worth the hassle. I'm not going to replace a $100/mo CATV subscription with 10 (or even 5) $10/mo individual subscriptions, where I have to constantly remember which service provides a particular show. I'm not going to have multiple dongles and devices to watch…
Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube
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#372Roku is SLOW. Apple TV is so fast it makes my brain hurt. I'm so used to clicking on YouTube then looking at my phone for a minute waiting for it to start. Now it just starts up in a few seconds. Also the stupid buttons on the Roku remote keep opening Hulu and Vudu whenever someone sits on the remote.
I'll probably just switch to Apple TV for everything soon. I dislike their unreliable, overpriced, and unrepairable laptops, phones, and tablets. But the TV box seems pretty solid so far.
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#373A few weeks after all this beef started, Google emailed me with an offer for a free "Chromecast with Google TV" device. I thought it was weird, as the email (and the offer) was completely unsolicited. The email mentioned something about thanking me for being a YouTube-TV customer. I'm sure Google knows I watch YouTube-TV from my Roku-enabled TV, so I figured it was related to the beef. I just though it was weird at f…
I disagree. I have 5-6 Rokus and one Chromecast with Google TV. Chromecast with Google TV does not support YouTubeTV user profiles. That's kind of a big deal, considering it's a feature of YTTV and one that I use extensively. Not being able to access my library of content from my living room TV sucks. I have to use my phone to launch the video, and then I can use the CC remote to skip/navigate. I've reported it multiple times, all I hear back from the YTTV Reddit team is "we're working on it".
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#374I recently got an Apple TV just for Zwift after using Roku for 8 years. The difference between Apple TV 4K and the Roku Ultra is striking. I got my Apple TV used for about the same price as the Ultra new. However I think paying an extra $100 for an Apple TV is a pretty good investment. Roku is SLOW. Apple TV is so fast it makes my brain hurt. I'm so used to clicking on YouTube then looking at my phone for a minute wa…
What's slow? I have several Roku Streaming Sticks which are their lowest hardware spec and I have never experienced any UI slowness. I love the clicky remote, and can blaze through DVR recordings using the skip buttons. It's so fast, I can skip 15 between pitches in an MLB game without lag, whereas with my Chromecast it's a slight delay which doesn't make it worth it.
Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube
#375I recently got an Apple TV just for Zwift after using Roku for 8 years. The difference between Apple TV 4K and the Roku Ultra is striking. I got my Apple TV used for about the same price as the Ultra new. However I think paying an extra $100 for an Apple TV is a pretty good investment. Roku is SLOW. Apple TV is so fast it makes my brain hurt. I'm so used to clicking on YouTube then looking at my phone for a minute wa…
> Roku is SLOW What's slow? I have several Roku Streaming Sticks which are their lowest hardware spec and I have never experienced any UI slowness. I love the clicky remote, and can blaze through DVR recordings using the skip buttons. It's so fast, I can skip 15 between pitches in an MLB game without lag, whereas with my Chromecast it's a slight delay which doesn't make it worth it.
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> Roku is SLOW What's slow? I have several Roku Streaming Sticks which are their lowest hardware spec and I have never experienced any UI slowness. I love the clicky remote, and can blaze through DVR recordings using the skip buttons. It's so fast, I can skip 15 between pitches in an MLB game without lag, whereas with my Chromecast it's a slight delay which doesn't make it worth it.
It may be that I just have an older Roku Ultra (2019 ish) but it's definitely slow. Loading Youtube takes 30 seconds to a minute, moving between videos is a 30 second delay, everything loads slowly. It likes to eat inputs from the remote as well. Scrolling through video is brutally painful. The Apple TV is probably 5-10x faster on everything.
My Smart LG TV in contrast, is painfully slow. Given the spat between Google/Roku I bought a Chromecast but I'm not thrilled given it doesn't support multiple YTTV profiles.
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I have been on Roku forever now and I'm always wondering about these people freaking out about the ads there. It is no where close to the ad intrusion of YouTube. They are not animated, have no sound, and basically stay out of the way. It's like the shinning example of how to do ads.
Roku ads take up the entire right half of the main launch screen, visible every time you turn on the TV or change apps. They've recently started displaying branded ads that are even more intrusive, taking over the entire theme + wallpaper (I recall they did this for Mandalorian, Soul, some other big movie launches). YouTube ads help fund content creators. Roku ads are being displayed on a stand alone device that I al…
I feel that this is being too generous to YouTube considering things like these:
"YouTube will run ads on some creator videos, but it won’t give them any of the revenue" [1]
"YouTube Will Now Show Ads On All Videos Even If Creators Don’t Want Them" [2]
[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2020/11/18/21573937/youtube-ads-cre...
[2]: https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2020/11/18/youtube...
Re: Roku tells customers it is unable to strike a deal with YouTube
#378You can barely buy a TV without smart capability these days. I find it weird how Roku is even recognized as a platform and receive this much media coverage. They haven’t had a unique product in like 10 years. They are the Yelp of the antiquated stream box world
The reason people are buying them is because the built-in software is so bad and laggy. I have a Samsung and my primary way to view anything is through the plugged in Amazon Fire stick.
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Doesn't it ? >asking Roku to create a dedicated search results row for YouTube within the Roku smart TV interface >we have never, as they have alleged, made any requests to access user data or interfere with search results. Doesn't this contradict the idea that Roku claims they are asking for special search results. >Hah, a "high quality" experience indeed. Except, it's not quite "on youtube" since it's more "on Roku…
>I'm not understanding your point here, its the Youtube app. Why is it more on Roku ? Because one nice feature of Roku is it will search for a program across all of the services. I can search for a movie and see it's $3.99 to rent on Amazon and $4.99 somewhere and free somewhere else. Maybe Google don't like being at the end of the list alphabetically, which might make sense for company that knows the drop off clickt…
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I also bought an ATV recently and I'm very happy with it. I still use an Nvidia Shield for Plex though. The ATV is great for streaming platforms, but lacks HDMI audio passthrough which is essential for watching hi quality BluRay rips on a home theater.
I do not know if this is what you mean, but the new Apple TV 4K has HDMI ARC/eARC: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207117
ARC/eARC is about the TV sending audio from HDMI devices to another HDMI port where your receiver/soundbar is connected.
HDMI audio passthrough is a feature that allows apps to send any raw encoded audio signal "as is" via the HDMI port (eg: Dolby, DTS, etc) to your receiver that will do the decoding.
The ATV does not support DTS or TrueHD, hence to output audio with those codecs, it needs to be decoded and converted on the fly to a supported format like PCM. Unfortunately this produces all sort of issues (sync, volume, etc).