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An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by edmundsauto »

oehpr wrote: post #242
pbhjpbhj wrote: post #86

Pretty simple explanation, they let the clearly copyright infringing content in to their walled-garden under safe harbour protections, but allowing download is contributory infringement with distribution and there's no hiding from that as they can clearly easily prevent it (as they have). Super hypocritical? Sure. Understandable? Also a yes.

It really chafes me that that somehow "looking at a video on a computer" managed to find itself legally distinct from "downloading it".

They are only similar in a technical sense. The legal distinction is important because when someone views a video, there retain more of their legal rights - they can stop hosting it, for one, and people can't watch it.

When you download the video, you are asserting more control over it than the legal system believes you should have.

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Post by CameronNemo »

dexterdog wrote: post #252
Sebb767 wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, there are a lot of ads w/o adblockers. You can disable them by buying premium, but you'll have a hard time blocking them in the app. Also, adblock adaption is actually not that high compared to what tech circles suggest, more in the 5-20% range [0]. Lastly, Reddit is basically the origin of organic marketing. You can't block these ads ... [0] Not a perfect source, but Statista cites 700 million users: https://ww…

I use reddit with an ad blocker on the web and I use a 3rd party client on my phone. Where am I seeing ads if I only subscribe to the subs that I want?

Astroturfing.

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Post by rchaud »

uxcolumbo wrote: post #220
rchaud wrote: post #193

Pretty much every Reddit video is an .m4v or .mp4 file that can be downloaded directly from the browser. Open the link in a browser window, then right click and choose 'Save video as'. Works on mobile as well.

As far as I know the the video stream and audio stream are split and if you save the video it doesn't contain the audio. Those reddit save sites put both together. I don't get why Reddit won't allow videos with sound to be easily saved.

I downloaded one right now, with sound, from Now for Reddit app. There's a little three-dot control in the bottom corner that includes an option to save as a file.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by crossroadsguy »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #55
crossroadsguy wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you’ll have to request multiple people who run services that backs up every reddit post. But that’s still way better than HN. At least on reddit you can easily delete posts and accounts.

> Then you’ll have to request multiple people who run services that backs up every reddit post. Including Archive.org. > But that’s still way better than HN. At least on reddit you can easily delete posts and accounts. This is a topic where the interests of the community and the needs of an individual come in conflict, and I don't think there's an universally agreed-on standard practice. By community I explicitly do…

If a user wants to delete the comment user should be allowed to delete the comment or account. Period!

Reasons like community interest are not strong or proper imho.

Also there’s no information about whether HN logs user IPs or any other info. Or info about how many IPs are logged. Whether they log all the IPs or last K IPs. For how long those IPs are stored.

Re: An impersonator issued a fake Reddit take down notice against SaveVideo

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Post by sillysaurusx »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #296
Ajedi32 wrote: post #283

Update: Reddit employees are denying that Reddit sent any such notice. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/ojccls/reddit_o...

I suspected it was too evil for Reddit. Killing off secret santa was lame, but threatening to sue your users is a different level. Plus, there would be no reason to threaten a lawsuit when they could just ban the account. So, gaming this out, I don't think the person that ran SaveVideo was evil either. Assuming good faith, the most likely explanation that comes to mind is that someone fabricated a cease and desist no…

> Assuming good faith, the most likely explanation that comes to mind is that someone fabricated a cease and desist notice.

Called it. :) It was indeed a fake takedown: https://www.reddit.com/user/SaveVideo/comments/ojohbq/update...

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Post by geerlingguy »

Seanambers wrote: post #365
sillysaurusx wrote: post #296

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspected it was too evil for Reddit. Killing off secret santa was lame, but threatening to sue your users is a different level. Plus, there would be no reason to threaten a lawsuit when they could just ban the account. So, gaming this out, I don't think the person that ran SaveVideo was evil either. Assuming good faith, the most likely explanation that comes to mind is that someone fabricated a cease and desist no…

Wow they killed SecretSanta??! Never participated, but thats a bad business decision for sure... Unless they come out with their own concept of course... As a former digg refugee, I'm sorry to see the same dysfunction strike reddit.

Things seemed to start rolling downhill after they fired the AmA hostess (I don't remember her name); it seemed like a lot of the decisions since then have been more "corporate" and less "community". (As in, if it doesn't promise high returns in an easily measurable metric and time frame, it gets the axe).

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Post by busymom0 »

stjohnswarts wrote: post #368
JohnWhigham wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We'll see how much longer the API lasts. reddit knows that if they kill that, they may trigger a digg-style user migration. It's also why they keep the "old" version of the site around.

a lot of people (and I mean a LOT) hate the "new" reddit website and will look elsewhere if they limit the API (or do away with it entirely) for clients like slide, RIF, apollo, Sync, etc

I have pretty much stopped visiting reddit except for questions regarding iOS programming. Their website and mobile site is complete crap. Apollo is a decent iOS app alternative and if they kill the API, it's over for them.

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Post by busymom0 »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #195
willis936 wrote: post #105

Friendly reminder that old.reddit.com is still up. I deleted the app this morning. Maybe old.reddit.com will be a nicotine patch.

https://teddit.net

It seems to use Reddit API behind the scenes. So if Reddit shuts down the API, then this would be lost too.
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