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Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by duxup »

fourseventy wrote: post #370
duxup wrote: post #314

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There was a story about a guy who had a self published book. He was the only person printing / selling his book. Until someone showed up on amazon and sold it too, they just copied it and printed it themselves. The copied book is identical, cover and all, images in the Amazon listing too ... Amazon chose to do nothing.

He should just sue for copyright infringement.

IIRC: Amazon won't tell him who it is and he suspects it's just someone out of legal reach / as the book is just self published his legal resources are pretty limited.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by 1-6 »

rickspencer3 wrote: post #362

We're finally going to not renew our Amazon Prime after many years. We don't have that much need for "free" shipping on cheap Chinese products, and the convenience of the Amazon marketplace is now counter-balanced by the inconvenience of sorting out the fake goods and fake reviews. We are choosing sellers' own marketplaces when we can these days, and just dealing with longer and paid shipping. Additionally, we are fi…

Welcome to the other side. I haven't renewed Amazon Prime in quite a while. It's not that bad because you can still shop on Amazon with free shipping as long as you hit the minimum amount. I may keep things in the cart and sometimes it becomes a reminder for me to grab those items at the local shop. The only time I get an 'itch' to get back on Prime when I'm at Whole Foods. Other than that, goodbye free shipping!

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by rickspencer3 »

1-6 wrote: post #372
rickspencer3 wrote: post #362

We're finally going to not renew our Amazon Prime after many years. We don't have that much need for "free" shipping on cheap Chinese products, and the convenience of the Amazon marketplace is now counter-balanced by the inconvenience of sorting out the fake goods and fake reviews. We are choosing sellers' own marketplaces when we can these days, and just dealing with longer and paid shipping. Additionally, we are fi…

Welcome to the other side. I haven't renewed Amazon Prime in quite a while. It's not that bad because you can still shop on Amazon with free shipping as long as you hit the minimum amount. I may keep things in the cart and sometimes it becomes a reminder for me to grab those items at the local shop. The only time I get an 'itch' to get back on Prime when I'm at Whole Foods. Other than that, goodbye free shipping!

My wife pointed out that the shipping is not, in fact, free, because we pay $100 (or whatever it is now) for Prime.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by barbazoo »

binarysolo wrote: post #40

Given how this is on page-1 of HN, jeff@amazon (the elite US-based seller support team who uses the email, not Bezos) is gonna tear this AMVOOM / TaroRee hijacker a new one. While this is kinda designed-as-intended (Amazon wants you to brand register with them for protection), this is a pretty shitty dark pattern they put up and sadly it happens as an annoying edge case that existing sellers and customers have to dea…

> jeff@amazon is gonna tear this AMVOOM / TaroRee hijacker a new one

Sigh. The usual FAANG bs. Do nothing as long as it makes you money and do the minimum only if it caused enough outrage. No values, no ethics, 100% shallow.

Re: A foreign seller has hijacked my Amazon Klein bottle listing

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Post by capitainenemo »

capitainenemo wrote: post #321
CliffStoll wrote: post #116

Guess I'd better say a few things. First, I deeply appreciate that so many on Hacker News have come out for this. Enough to awaken me from a sound sleep on a Tuesday evening! I don't really care that much about selling Klein bottles over Amazon - it's mainly to reach parents over the holidays. But I do wish that Amazon would do something about this kind of thing. Finally, I"m very low on stocks of glass Klein bottles…

Much love, I've read your site through, often times out loud to family and coworkers. GL w/ Amazon. Minor nitpick. The link to go back to top of page at the bottom of https://kleinbottle.com/ links to index.htm and not index.html and is thus a 404. I guess you could just link it to / or ideally change to and link to to avoid a new page load.

(if anyone's wondering, now fixed )

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Post by jquery »

bombcar wrote: post #325
praptak wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which makes you wonder why Amazon keeps this scam-enabling "feature". Do legit sellers really need it that much that Amazon keeps it despite the scams?

The idea behind it was a good one - if you’re selling a book about cats, and you update the book to fix some typos (easy to do with Kindle for example) you don’t want to lose all your reviews. And then they added a feature where if multiple marketplace vendors are selling the same thing it combines them. And a third feature lets you classify items as various colors of a product (but the same product - think blue vs p…

> you update the book to fix some typos (easy to do with Kindle for example) you don’t want to lose all your reviews.

Disagree. They should do what Apple does for App Store reviews. Reviews of the latest version only, with other reviews as “background” data.

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Post by atatatat »

zwaps wrote: post #368
GistNoesis wrote: post #207

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What about the following listing (first result for the search "acme klein bottle" ) : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08YWM31V4 by "Brand: Cradle & Dew" "Kleinverse Exquisite Glass Klein Bottle, Handmade Math & Science Education Vase, Mobius Strip Glass Display for Gifts, Geometry Decoration & Theorem Glass - Collab with Mr Cliff Stoll" $74.90 + shipping How linked to you is this ? Are these just reselling your products o…

Seems they are also ripping off his product descriptions. Anything that can be done to get these people off of amazon?

Get it to affect their revenue somehow (people used to do boycotts for things like this, but now everything is one company, so what do we do?)

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Post by LorenPechtel »

bombcar wrote: post #325
praptak wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which makes you wonder why Amazon keeps this scam-enabling "feature". Do legit sellers really need it that much that Amazon keeps it despite the scams?

The idea behind it was a good one - if you’re selling a book about cats, and you update the book to fix some typos (easy to do with Kindle for example) you don’t want to lose all your reviews. And then they added a feature where if multiple marketplace vendors are selling the same thing it combines them. And a third feature lets you classify items as various colors of a product (but the same product - think blue vs p…

It's a good feature, it just needs more safeguards.

I'd also like to see a feature where established customers ($x bought over y time) can flag an entry as suspect--an entry gets enough flags and a human looks at it. If the entry turns out to be suspect everyone who flagged it gets a bit more flagging reputation, if it's wrong they get a bit less. The more flagging reputation you have the more your flag counts towards getting a human to investigate.

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Post by blairanderson »

CliffStoll wrote: post #116

Guess I'd better say a few things. First, I deeply appreciate that so many on Hacker News have come out for this. Enough to awaken me from a sound sleep on a Tuesday evening! I don't really care that much about selling Klein bottles over Amazon - it's mainly to reach parents over the holidays. But I do wish that Amazon would do something about this kind of thing. Finally, I"m very low on stocks of glass Klein bottles…

Hi Cliff, I'm an independent amazon consultant.

Your Amazon problems would be solved with a regular USPTO trademark. They don't recognize common-law trademarks because they are heavily arguable in litigation.

USPTO is a database of trademarks already scrutinized by trademark attorneys and government. It's not perfect, but it is a collection that Amazon recognizes.

You can do this for $2000-ish and never think about it again.

then GS1.org for barcodes

Now you can sell your bottles in museum gift-shops!

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Post by driverdan »

Unklejoe wrote: post #310
zeusk wrote: post #196

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McMaster-Carr is awesome, but I believe they are very business/professional oriented. I needed some brass thread-ins with bolts and they got the job done but now I'm sitting on a minimum sized order of ~50 pieces that I won't be using anytime soon. Maybe I can resell them eBay. Hah.

McMaster is great if you need some obscure bolt, but man do they stick you for it. Want this weird thread bolt? Here's a power plant certified 2mm bolt for $75 each.

I just bought some grade 8 hardware from them. It was cheaper than Fastenal, even with shipping, and they delivered overnight. I had to buy in higher quantities than I needed but the extras will get used at some point.
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