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Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by themacguffinman »

NtGuy25 wrote: post #208
antisthenes wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

W7 was the only MS product I ever paid money for (as a student), and feel like it was a great deal. Would gladly keep paying for security enhancements for it and don't really see anything that W10 (or W11 for that matter) offers over it for work or gaming. It's a real shame that taking away controls from power users seem to be more important than providing a great product. But I guess when you're a monopoly you can d…

What control is taken away from power users? Most things can be toggled in the registry, and won't go away due to compatibility reasons. And patchguard can be disabled extremely easily. Same with DSE. I can't think of a single thing a power user can't do on Win 10 that they can on Win 7.

- [Taskbar] Alignment to the bottom of the screen is the only location allowed. [1]

- Touch Keyboard will no longer dock and undock keyboard layouts on screen sizes 18 inches and larger. [1]

- [Start Menu] Named groups and folders of apps are no longer supported and the layout is not currently resizable. [1]

- Windows 11 Home will require a Microsoft account [2]

- TPM 2.0 is required [1] (some gaming/enthusiast mobos sell TPM modules separately AFAICT)

[1] https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11-specifica...

[2] https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/24/22548480/windows-11-home-...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by aksss »

Aerroon wrote: post #191
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

Who uses home edition anyway? Your parents? It's not suitable for anyone that may want to lift the hood.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by FpUser »

kleiba wrote: post #226
Aerroon wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> * A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup I refuse. There better be easily accessible versions without this requirement.

I'm not a Windows person but recently had to go through the setup process on my parents' newly purchased desktop machine. As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible, you had to have an online account, hooked up with a valid email address. Given that most free email providers require you to provide your phone number (I don't own a phone), I had to do some digging--- all just to creat…

>"As far as I could tell, creating a user account just locally was not possible"

I do it all the time. Do not plug network cable and do not connect to WiFi. Windows then proceeds to setting up local account

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by xxpor »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #367
xxpor wrote: post #310

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>40% smaller Windows Updates Was there anything about faster updates? Why does the Windows Update service take 50%+ of my CPU and multiple minutes to figure out if there's any updates available for me? I get Windows doesn't have a package manager, but given yum and deb can figure out the answer in seconds... there has to be some way to improve that.

Actually Windows does have a package manager now, it is called winget.

So when is MS going to start using it for basic OS stuff? :)

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by FridayoLeary »

dmt0 wrote: post #358
huhtenberg wrote: post #338

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Probably intentional. They'll remove this in Windows 12.

Microsoft is continuing their long tradition of screwing up every other version of Windows. 98SE - ok, ME - bad, XP - good, Vista - bad, 7 - good, 8 - bad, 10 - good, 11 - can safely skip it and wait for 12

It's not just me then;) Windows vista seems to be crying out for a Windows 7, XP is ok and Windows 8... I've never even used Windows 8, it's the most anonymous Windows imaginable.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by bluescrn »

dean177 wrote: post #227
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

- Windows have rounded corners - Teams integrated into Windows - A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account) - A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup No thank you

> Teams integrated into Windows

How about fixing basic functionality like the ability to scroll back and view old messages, before integrating it into the OS?...

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by hoopleheaded »

silicon2401 wrote: post #301
hoopleheaded wrote: post #190

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I tend to avoid accounts as much as possible but this seems a juvenile response. Do you use a smartphone?

A smartphone isn't a desktop OS. You're free to think it's juvenile, and I'm free to prefer a desktop OS that doesn't require an account like win10 or linux.

That's fair. I think I took issue with your tone which is 100% on me. My tone was not terribly constructive.

I would certainly prefer it to not require an account.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by lucian1900 »

miroz wrote: post #329
literallyaduck wrote: post #288

Every time this happens someone says fuck it and installs Linux. After two weeks some of them come back, but the Linux market share grows. I want an OS that stays current on security patches, attempts to be as unobtrusive as possible, allows for Desktop Environment customization but has sane defaults. I don't want special integrations. The OS should follow single responsibility and defer special functionality to app…

I did this when Vista came out. I said fuck it and installed Ubuntu, I had enough of Microsoft bullshit. Then Ubuntu upgraded and moved all window icons to the left side and rearranged them awkwardly. On the next update, they upgraded the sound subsystem and I was without sound until I bought my next PC. Another update came and computer went to sleep when watching movies, so I had to move the mouse every minute to fi…

For better or worse, the escape is macOS.

Re: Microsoft announces Windows 11

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Post by FridayoLeary »

dean177 wrote: post #227
satysin wrote: post #94

So to summerize what they have announced (so far) - * A new look task bar. Centred similar to the macOS dock by default but lacking the ability to position on any other screen edge? * A new start menu design * Windows have rounded corners * Some built in apps such as the Xbox app and Microsoft Store have been redesigned (Xbox Game Pass and xCloud built into the Xbox app) * New touch keyboard (SwiftKey?) with improved…

- Windows have rounded corners - Teams integrated into Windows - A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account) - A Microsoft account and internet connectivity is required for Windows 11 Home setup No thank you

- A new widgets fly out for weather, news, etc. (appears this will require you login with a Microsoft Account)

Sounds daft and pointless to me. Are they mistaking their software for Apple or Android? Is Linux a usable alternative? IMHO, Windows 7 is my favorite OS, also XP, I don't love Windows 10 but Windows 11 sounds even less exciting, maybe MS should make some kind of "special edition" Windows XP that can support new features as a novelty.

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