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Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

throwaway0xa wrote: post #368
solosoyokaze wrote: post #361

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It doesn't matter how they claim it's being used. It's a slur. The user of the slur doesn't get to decide who's offended by it. It's an offensive term just like the N word.

>It doesn't matter how they claim it's being used. Except it does. You're going into a community and projecting your sense of what is and is not offensive. They don't find it offensive or see it as a slur, you do. You're seeking their community out, they're not coming to your home and calling you an "Archfag". >The user of the slur doesn't get to decide who's offended by it. Of course, because offense is taken, not g…

The "community" is the actual world we live in. A message board isn't isolated from that. It's offensive and a slur in the real world, of which 4chan is a tiny subset.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by causality0 »

dls2016 wrote: post #230
causality0 wrote: post #175

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Indeed. /pol/'s main value is entertainment at the sheer level of batshit insanity but the number of times they've either been startlingly prescient or else had serious insider knowledge is significant. I've seen things there that took days to hit CNN. For example, claims about Peter Bright's pedophilic exploits hit /pol/ years ahead of his arrest.

This really gets to the core of my love/hate relationship with the "weird" internet. I was an Ars-poster ~20 years ago and hadn't heard any of those rumors. Never ventured into 4chan for more than 5 minutes at a time. But I did spend a lot of time in the Gawker comment section and reading things like the Crazy Days and Nights blog. It definitely gives you a different perspective on journalism. There are so many stori…

Personally I blame social media. The phenomenon of linking your online presence to your real identity is a disaster. Now instead of ignoring racist garbage from xXBoner_Lord_420Xx you see it being posted by John Smith, head of Accounting for Company Inc.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by throwaway0xa »

solosoyokaze wrote: post #371
throwaway0xa wrote: post #368

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>It doesn't matter how they claim it's being used. Except it does. You're going into a community and projecting your sense of what is and is not offensive. They don't find it offensive or see it as a slur, you do. You're seeking their community out, they're not coming to your home and calling you an "Archfag". >The user of the slur doesn't get to decide who's offended by it. Of course, because offense is taken, not g…

The "community" is the actual world we live in. A message board isn't isolated from that. It's offensive and a slur in the real world, of which 4chan is a tiny subset.

>The "community" is the actual world we live in.

Wrong. The "community" is a small internet board that you actively have to seek out. It is not the "greater actual world we live in", it's a subset of it, with different sensibilities, culture, etc. No one has to seek out the "greater actual world we live in", that's a main difference.

>A message board isn't isolated from that.

Yes it is, it absolutely is, as proven above.

>It's offensive and a slur in the real world, of which 4chan is a tiny subset.

It's not offensive in 4chan, which is a subset of the "real world". You literally just proved my point again, it's not offensive everywhere "in the greater real world". QED.

Using your illogic, Black people saying the n-word would be offensive everywhere "in the real world", but it's not offensive in the Black community, a subset "of the real world". QED.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by Blikkentrekker »

solosoyokaze wrote: post #371
throwaway0xa wrote: post #368

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>It doesn't matter how they claim it's being used. Except it does. You're going into a community and projecting your sense of what is and is not offensive. They don't find it offensive or see it as a slur, you do. You're seeking their community out, they're not coming to your home and calling you an "Archfag". >The user of the slur doesn't get to decide who's offended by it. Of course, because offense is taken, not g…

The "community" is the actual world we live in. A message board isn't isolated from that. It's offensive and a slur in the real world, of which 4chan is a tiny subset.

You do not want to live your life by the average of what “the world” finds offensive. There is no one on the world who would want such, and thinking that one want such can only come from a grave lack of realization how much cultural values can differ around the world.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by Zababa »

sudosysgen wrote: post #334
Zababa wrote: post #266

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The board is called "politically incorrect" so of course that's what you'll find here. /pol/ is often referred as a "containement board", which means a board made so that people stop discussing certain topics in other boards while using the excuse that they don't have anywhere else to go. This way, other boards aren't polluted by things that people are fed up with. In some way it's a bit like a trashcan, once trash h…

/pol/ and /b/ are basically half of 4chan today. It's now less a trashcan are more like the country becoming a dumpster.

Even if the country is half a dumpster, as long as it's well defined and doesn't leak too much into the rest, I think it's okay.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by beaconstudios »

pix64 wrote: post #235
mhh__ wrote: post #98

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> It's just reddit for people who hate reddit. Isn't that hackernews

> > It's just reddit for people who hate reddit. It's just reddit for people who hate

Sure there is some of that, but there are people who hate on reddit too. Like reddit, there's also plenty of normal boards like origami, fitness, sports etc. It just gets associated with /pol/ which is a containment board for a reason.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

throwaway0xa wrote: post #373
solosoyokaze wrote: post #371

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The "community" is the actual world we live in. A message board isn't isolated from that. It's offensive and a slur in the real world, of which 4chan is a tiny subset.

>The "community" is the actual world we live in. Wrong. The "community" is a small internet board that you actively have to seek out. It is not the "greater actual world we live in", it's a subset of it, with different sensibilities, culture, etc. No one has to seek out the "greater actual world we live in", that's a main difference. >A message board isn't isolated from that. Yes it is, it absolutely is, as proven ab…

Your case to freely be racist with no repercussions is unconvincing. 4chan’s cover story doesn’t matter. It’s clearly a huge center for racism and other forms of discrimination. You’re literally arguing to use slurs.

4chan most definitely exists in the real world and is subject to its morals. It doesn’t matter if you use a slur at a private club, Internet forum or at home. It doesn’t change its offensiveness.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by solosoyokaze »

Blikkentrekker wrote: post #374
solosoyokaze wrote: post #371

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The "community" is the actual world we live in. A message board isn't isolated from that. It's offensive and a slur in the real world, of which 4chan is a tiny subset.

You do not want to live your life by the average of what “the world” finds offensive. There is no one on the world who would want such, and thinking that one want such can only come from a grave lack of realization how much cultural values can differ around the world.

I don’t want to live in a world where racism and discrimination are accepted. Pretty simple actually.

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by JohnBooty »

andyxor wrote: post #369
Viliam1234 wrote: post #367

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Somehow, millions of policemen across the world are able to understand "use of force" in a different way than kneeling on someone's neck. The murder-cop himself was probably able to understand it differently on a different day.

neck restraint is standard use of force noone dies from back of the neck pressure unless there is physical damage and none was detected, not to his skin, nor deep tissues based on autopsy report, there was not enough pressure to cause suffocation GF died from fentanyl overdose and sick heart which could't handle him resisting arrest for so long

holy shit dude stop

Re: 4chan founder Chris Poole has left Google

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Post by ineedasername »

andyxor wrote: post #350
ineedasername wrote: post #344

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Are you trying to say that raging hatred on 4Chan is acceptable because raging hatred exists in other areas too? That would be a strange thing to say, but I don't know what you're getting at otherwise.

it's kind of strange to pay attention to a fringe internet forum when you have mainstream media, like CNN, WaPo, NBC etc broadcasting conspiracy theories on "white supremacists", "white privilege", "systemic racism", "critical race theory", and other racist divisive bs every day for years now, not to mention inciting riots and violence on the streets. Especially when they openly admit doing this for political reasons…

Other media outlets aren't the topic here. If you want to talk about them, feel free to submit another post to HN. Until then, your attempts to misdirect the conversation are amateurish and obvious.
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