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Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by OJFord »

Arnavion wrote: post #278
OJFord wrote: post #191

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26284124

> except you have to write them by hand

Well yeah, no, I don't want to do that. That's why I always ran both, (uBO in 'simple mode' cosmetic blocking only) and now nuTensor seems like a better option than diving into uBO alone. I gave it a go.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by zargon »

grenoire wrote: post #3

Honestly, I can't really browse on my phone anymore. I'm... spoiled by FF + uBlock and I can't tolerate all the distractions. Will we ever get enough traction on either blocking mechanisms or stop shoving ads everywhere? Will the general public experience the pleasures of an ad-less internet? P.S. I'm on an iPhone, blockers failed me so far. Thanks for the suggestions fellas.

This is one of the top reasons I can't buy an iPhone.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by lazyweb »

unethical_ban wrote: post #336
Nerada wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the same boat. My main objection to uBO is the cryptic UI. I have no idea what the two columns to the right of a domain are as there's no column headings, or the two nested buttons in each column, one of which is grey (where I'd assume there'd be green to counter the red?), or the "+"/"++" that sometimes appear over said buttons... Or the green bars that creep in from the far left over the domain names, at sta…

Doesn't that UI only present itself if you declare yourself an advanced user?

Yes exactly. If you don't understand the controls, reading the linked FAQ is really worth it and doesn't take that long.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by mike_d »

skrowl wrote: post #345
apozem wrote: post #125

I really, really wish Apple would update Safari for uBlock Origin. I’m about to publish a Safari extension (a NoScript equivalent) and the content blocking APIs are so limited. iOS is even worse than the Mac, too. On iOS AFAIK you can’t even reload the page for the user.

Keep in mind that on iOS you have no browser options AT ALL. You get Safari or skinned Safari. Per the Apple app store rules, no one may publish a browser or javascript engine and any app that browses the web MUST use safari's webkit. This is by design so that web feels very bad on iOS compared to native apps, so you'll keep using native apps and Apple will get their 30% of whatever you buy in app.

> This is by design so that web feels very bad on iOS

The reason is because the WebKit engine on iOS is heavily optimized for battery life and can make use of private APIs that further that goal.

Safari and Chrome are essentially the same engine under the hood, the web wouldn't "feel" better if you had one over the other.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by LilBytes »

exikyut wrote: post #365
dorgo wrote: post #364

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a browser bans ad-blockers and people start to fiddle with DNS, wouldn't it be easy for a browser to use it's own DNS system? If a browser turns hostile there is nothing you can do.

IIUC that's what DNS-over-HTTPS is trying to do, methinks.

Exactly. Same for the nextdns.io service which I'm happily subscribing to.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by fsflover »

MacroChip wrote: post #76
crocsarecool wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t look up a recipe for boiled eggs without coming upon a 15 paragraph essay with ads in between each paragraph. It’s so obnoxious now. I don’t mind that people want to monetize, but it’s getting off putting when it is so obnoxious.

I made https://thisfoodblogdoesnotexist.com as satire. It uses GPT2 to generate blog content like those 15 paragraph essays.

You should add your site to the list: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25176101.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by OJFord »

gxnxcxcx wrote: post #242
OJFord wrote: post #191

Such a shame uMatrix was discontinued. uBlock Origin comes close, and surpasses in some ways (I used both for that reason) but lacks separate control of cookies, images, scripts, etc. So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. I mention it mainly in the hope that we can popularise its maintained fork 'nuTensor'. After trying uBlock (as in attempting to also…

> So you can't accept a particular third party's images without also accepting its scripts, cookies, etc. It's a clunky interface with poor discoverability, but with the uBO logger open in a browser tab you can click on any request right beside the timestamp and define a new rule with the desired granularity. In the URL Rule tab, the unmarked left column sets the allow/noop/block behavior. Edit: Found the wiki page:…

But this is something I do on a good chunk of websites the first time I visit them. (Not all, because my base - allow first-party, allow all css, allow all images, block all cookies - is also often enough.)

It's just too painful to open a logger, find a request, craft something manually, etc. uMatrix is point and click and it's right there in the toolbar.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by Hiopl »

antonok wrote: post #235
surround wrote: post #200

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Brave is Chromium-based and suffers from all of the limitations stated in the parent article. (Except for CNAME cloaking. However, their CNAME uncloaking only applies to their built-in tracking protection. AFAIK, if you use uBo on Brave it will be still unable to uncloak CNAMES.)

> Brave is Chromium-based and suffers from all of the limitations stated in the parent article. Only for extensions. Brave Shields is implemented in natively compiled Rust and C++ (which is even more efficient than WebAssembly), is able to load rules before making any network requests, uses a compressed filter list data representation, and prefetching is disabled entirely in Brave. The only thing currently missing fr…

And it's still only half as effective as uBO on Firefox. The amount of pop-ups that manage to get through is absurd and it's one of the main reasons why Firefox remains my daily driver.

Re: uBlock Origin works best on Firefox

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Post by kaba0 »

f1refly wrote: post #368
kaba0 wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, in js performance it is unfortunately behind in some benchmarks as far as I know. And some major non-standard website refuses to run under firefox, like teams unfortunately (definitely the fault of Microsoft) So I am an FF user by ideology, but sometimes do use Chromium (basically only to not have to run electron).

Being "behind in some benchmarks" is not an argument at all. You're implying that 1. Those test convey any useful information leading to 2. The average user is able to notice the difference in the real world I think that things that are not js execution time for actual site functionality are much worse for the overall web experience, namely js execution time for ads/trackers and overall latency caused by bad connecti…

You don’t have to convince me of Firefox being all around better, but I think it is important to note the areas where it could improve.
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