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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by nomel »

elliekelly wrote: post #310
ravenstine wrote: post #216

I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

What I miss about the MagSafe was that it would bump off if I adjusted my computer on my lap or my bed where USB-C bends and eventually breaks. I’ve never needed to replace any of the MagSafe chargers on old MacBooks and I must be on my third or fourth USB-C cable.

There are many third party mag-safe like "adapters" for USB-C, that fairly flush in the port. It does require that port being a dedicated charging port though.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by nogridbag »

wlesieutre wrote: post #354
ardy42 wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Magsafe is more than neat, it pretty much solved the major annoyance with laptop power cables (e.g. someone trips on cable, and laptop gets jerked around, eventually da…

Here's an alternate solution to that problem: build a laptop with 20 hours of battery so that people aren't sitting on the couch with their laptop on the coffee table and a power cord dangling across the living room floor. I don't have an M1 machine, but the impression I get from people is that "Plug it in overnight at your desk and literally don't worry about its battery running out" is a reasonable thing to do now.

That's the experience I have with my HP "windows on arm" laptop (one of the launch devices - not the newer more powerful CPU). And of course in the last few rounds of Windows updates they broke "Instant On" which besides battery life was the only other great thing about it. Now it's a slow laptop with great battery life that's frustrating because it takes 20 seconds to turn on.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by kall »

switz wrote: post #66

If anyone from Apple is reading, let me just say – this is exactly what I want. Magsafe charging. Function keys instead of the touchbar. 15-16" screen. M1 CPU. 32GB Memory. I also prefer the 2015 keyboard, but it's not a dealbreaker. I'll pay for the kickstarter now if it means it'll come out in the next 18 months. Please make it happen.

I know you didn‘t mean this literally but the idea of apple doing a kickstarter is hilarious. It would be the logical conclusion of established, VC backed companies like ROLI doing them.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by 908B64B197 »

wlesieutre wrote: post #252
ravenstine wrote: post #216

I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Could this be talking about an iPhone 12 style magsafe with a large pad? Not sure how that would work, you'd have to set your computer on top of it to have enough contact…

> I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk.

The Surface charger is a version of MagSafe that's pretty much immune to that.

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Post by racl101 »

Yes. No touch bar. I prefer real buttons. More ports. We regular USB is still a thing in spite of what they might think. Don't you dare touch the 3.5 mm audio jack! Leave it alone. Nobody gives a shit that the laptops are half a centimeter thick when they need all these stupid adapters / dongles to have basic functionality.

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Post by minitoar »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #359
minitoar wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My house is cold, the extra heat is welcome here. I only have electric heat.

Unless you live in the tropics, electric heat is borderline unconscionable with regards to climate change.

I use solar power. Also, in nearby San Jose, California, they have banned NG in all new construction except commercial or multi family residences taller than 3 stories.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by jandrese »

lostlogin wrote: post #353
ardy42 wrote: post #320

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My favorite part of my touchbar MBP is that it uses USB-C charging. MagSafe is neat, but I don't miss the $80 proprietary charger with a cable that's fixed to the brick and will probably fail if you do anything other than leave it sitting at a desk. Magsafe is more than neat, it pretty much solved the major annoyance with laptop power cables (e.g. someone trips on cable, and laptop gets jerked around, eventually da…

I too loved MagSafe. It wasn’t without issues though. The cables didn’t have strain relief so ended up destroyed in certain hands. The other issue may be more region specific - New Zealand has iron sand beaches and fine black sand gets everywhere. Presumably some got into a bag of mine and a very small amount go into the laptop charging ports of multiple laptops. It caused the charger to not connect perfectly and thi…

Also if you have small children who put the magsafe connector in their mouth it kills the power brick. If you plug a faulty power brick into a laptop it would sometimes fry the power circuit on the laptop as well.

But I'm 100% in agreement that Apple underdesigned the strain relief on the MagSafe connectors, probably for aesthetic reasons.

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Post by phillco »

ravenstine wrote: post #216

I'll believe it when I see it. I could believe them getting rid of the touchbar, but bringing back magsafe? I'm sticking with my 2015 MacBook until it's irreparable, and I do like the magsafe port, but is there really any point in going back after moving to USB-C? I think I just like magsafe because it's cool more than that it actually has some sort of superiority over USB-C. I've tripped over the USB-C cable to my w…

I imagine they wouldn't remove the ability to charge over USB-C, but simply add a new MagSafe port. This would effectively free up an extra port when traveling, and you could still use USB-C charging from hubs, monitors, or third-party chargers.

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Post by Pokepokalypse »

unethical_ban wrote: post #222
gumby wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's for people who look at the keyboard when they type. I think it would be a godsend for the low end machines. Instead they put it on the high end machines and left it off the entry level ones -- completely backwards. I personally never used the F keys for anything so don't really care if they are there or not (I use them just for brightness and mute) but the Touch Bar was too sensitive. And while I initially thoug…

It's for people who use the keyboard for more then typing! That's the point of the OP you responded to. Computers are for more than essays and coding.

True - but multimedia folks can buy separate controls for their specific needs; (for example, I use a separate volume control knob; just to have a handy way to control volume; mainly because my external keyboard's volume buttons require fn-key which is annoying when I need to respond quickly to change volume or mute.

So the touch bar might be great for SOME purposes in multimedia, not for others; but a variety of VERY CHEAP peripherals are available for these purposes - no need for a one-size-fits-all integrated approach.

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Post by marmaduke »

IfOnlyYouKnew wrote: post #359
minitoar wrote: post #288

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My house is cold, the extra heat is welcome here. I only have electric heat.

Unless you live in the tropics, electric heat is borderline unconscionable with regards to climate change.

what's the conscionable alternative?
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